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re: "An Inside Look at the Opioid Crisis that Destroyed a Town"
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:16 pm to navy
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:16 pm to navy
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This shite is so powerful ... once it takes control of a person ... it's basically prison or death...it's just a matter of how long and how much pain will be inflicted.
Or you reach the point of getting tired of the addiction and withdrawal and quit, like many people have.
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:24 pm to RTRinTampa
Some of you people need to talk to Jesus what with y'all calling my cousin a dope attic
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:33 pm to Big Scrub TX
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And yet it led to absurd sentencing laws based on whether it was crack or powder.
Unfortunately many Black politicians bought into the tough on drugs nonsense and now they regret it.
"They call it an epidemic now. That means White folks are doing it.........Maybe the next time you see Black people in trouble ,you'll help"- Richard Pryor
Every time I hear the compassionate responses to the " opiod crisis" I think of Pryor.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:42 pm to navy
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This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:03 pm to sugar71
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They call it an epidemic now. That means White folks are doing it.........Maybe the next time you see Black people in trouble ,you'll help"- Richard Pryor
Unfortunately for you and Pryor, black people are being affected too. So your racial bullshite is worthless
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:44 pm to el Gaucho
Sounds like your cousin needs to talk to Jesus about his addiction. I know several people with fibromyalgia and none have those symptoms.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:46 pm to Robin Masters
Another catalyst is customer (aka patient) driven healthcare. If a patient doesn't like what they were prescribed, the MD/hospital gets bad reviews. Bad reviews equal less government funding/reimbursement.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 7:15 pm to contrafleaux
quote:Maybe a little bit, but that was probably more of an issue when physicians didn't know the potential consequences of satisfying the customer.
Another catalyst is customer (aka patient) driven healthcare.
But it's inevitable that any service must have a focus on customer satisfaction, and I think it's a net positive overall. Or course, providing the best treatment outcomes is a good way to increase customer satisfaction.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 7:15 pm to RTRinTampa
quote:Gaucho is a troll.
Sounds like your cousin needs to talk to Jesus about his addiction. I know several people with fibromyalgia and none have those symptoms.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:54 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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There was an episode of American Greed a couple weeks ago about 2 pain doctors in Alabama
Not representative of doctors in general, not common practice.
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Not the source of the opiod issue at large.
Do you contend that the average doctor in the average town is getting kickbacks? I don't think so.
I think it is more an issue of patient satisfaction and CYA. Dude comes in w a 'daily headache that is severe and x, y, z haven't worked'. Doc needs to work this up but gives a handful of pain meds in the meantime. Pt dissatisfaction is large driver of lawsuits and also is tied to payment in many new models.
Eventually doc gets a note from pharmacy service showing the patient has done this same crap at like 6 other docs and on 2 ER visits. No one person has done anything egregious or particularly wrong - except the drug seeker.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:36 pm to SabiDojo
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How is a wall going to stop American doctors from prescribing American patients American made pharmaceutical opioids?
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Dude, Mexico is in the game now big time. They are producing fentanyl and trafficking it here and selling it at lower cost.
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A suspected Mexican drug kingpin known as "Gordo," or "Fatso," was indicted Tuesday for allegedly funneling enough fentanyl “to kill millions” in New York City.
LINK
Posted on 3/28/18 at 12:59 am to navy
And yet still, no one takes doctors and the AMA to task. I guess no one really cares how much harm doctors do to society. The AMA has systematically harmed the healthcare system and the health of our nation for almost 100 years. They are drug pushers, on the take from Big Pharma. But, it's ok because they're "doctors" and beyond scrutiny.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 1:00 am to AUstar
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Execute the dealers
That would be the doctors and their bosses, Big Pharma.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 2:16 am to ibldprplgld
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This. I am very mistrusting of big pharmacy, and unfortunately I'm getting that way with physicians.
My father is 85, and I every time that he and my mom go to the doctor, I have to ask what they prescribed him this time. I told them that he is being over-medicated. There is no way that anyone knows how the effects of multiple drugs interact. When he complains that one drug made him confused, instead of taking him off the drug or changing drugs, they give him one for the confusion. It is maddening.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 4:19 am to navy
I get worked up over a lot of stuff but this is just one issue that I can't get really seem to get concerned about. Maybe I'm getting old and cynical and somewhat callous.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:26 am to Big Scrub TX
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We already know what the answer is: prison. Tough sentencing and no mercy.
or legalize it and make the drug cheap and available where they don't have to commit crimes to get it. An addiction in and of itself, is sort of bad, but it's the crime and poverty that comes from trying to aquire the drug, along with the lack of quality control of street drugs, that make them such a problem to society
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:35 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yep. People like to numb emotional pain as much as they do physical pain
remember when religion was the opiate of the masses. Well now opiates are the opiate of the masses. Alcohol is probably still more of an opiate of the masses than opiates though.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:40 am to el Gaucho
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My cousin has fibromyalgia and if he can't get his medicine he gets real sick. Diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, cold sweats, he can barely get out of bed. It really is a terrible disease
no they call that with drawels, that has nothing to do with his disease. You would do the same thing if you took his (pain) medicine for a couple months and then suddenly ran out.
edit: just saw the other responses and noticed you were trolling. Good one though.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 5:55 am
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:53 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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Exactly how much in kickbacks do you think docs get from prescribing narcotics?
At your typical pain clinic where the biggest source of the prescribed street meds come from they don't need the kickbacks to make a ton of money off this stuff. At $200 or more (depending on what he is prescribing, maybe $300 a visit if it is roxycotins, along with the norcos and xanex ) for a two to five minute visit with the doctor once a month, that shite adds up to a ton of money for a doctor seeing 15-20 patients an hour 5 hours a day three days a week.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:57 am to RTRinTampa
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orrect. I believe WV leads the nation for people on disability per capita.
patients on disability are perfect for the doctor. Gives him something to justify his prescriptions when the
DEA comes snooping
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