re: American Conservatism is Fiddling While Rome Burns

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That being said, one of the primary accomplishments that republicans are constantly sold short on is being a stumbling block to socialist democrats trying to implement their agenda. Socialist democrats would have destroyed this country 20 years ago if it weren't for republicans, conservative or not.

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fricking pathetic

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fricking pathetic

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Well what have you, or the the political persuasion you identify with, done to stop the march toward marxism/socialism instituted and advocated by the democrat party?

Do tell.

ETA: Come on now, you can do better than a pussy arse down vote. I'm certain you aren't fricking pathetic. No way. Tell us all how you aren't even more fricking pathetic.

Fiscal conservatism, the more important policy for the country's future, died before rock 'n roll did.

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You must be libertarian.

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room temperature IQ

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You two probably have more in common than you think if you get past the faux machismo on the internet and actually talk to one another.

I’d consider myself a pragmatic libertarian. There are two things I disagree with in his classification of libertarians:

1) Border policy needs to align with social policy. In a vacuum, I would be ok with open borders with small government. My primary concern in the current environment is the huge size of the government and wellfare programs. As long as those exist, you MUST have strong borders. If you are giving government handouts then you damn well better make sure it’s going to people paying taxes and who are here legally. I’d add I also believe in path to citizenship. The government has allowed this to go on too long. The first priority is fixing the dam but I don’t see how deportation is a realistic option for dealing with the flood waters that have already accumulated.

2) In regards to globalization, we have long forgotten about the national security aspect of this. Beyond the social arguments of who is actually benefiting from global trade, we can not be dependent on countries like China that do not share our values and actively seek to undermine our government. Basically, I think there’s a lot more to consider in regards to globalization besides simply economics, specifically when dealing with countries that are not going to allow free markets themselves. This is where I think Trump has attracted me the most.

I do agree I’m not a conservative (I’m atheist and support other policies based on limiting government that conservatives would disagree with) but I do still think I represent an important demographic for Republicans to attract.

conservatives are pussies. Straight up. No way around it.

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You two probably have more in common than you think if you get past the faux machismo on the internet and actually talk to one another.

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I don't doubt it, but it is destined to be that way until libertarians can find a way to wrap their head around the reality that if they were actually as brilliant as they are in their own minds, it would be almost impossible to garner as small a percentage of the vote as they do. Much of the libertarian philosophy sounds great in a perfect world utopia. It's like a college professor who thinks he can tell me how to do the job that I've done for the last 25 years, so much better. If things actually worked like Professor Perfect says, then why is he going to work every day, making 250K and putting up with snot nosed kids, and not a millionaire, doing my job so much better than I ever could?

Think about opposing a physical barrier between the US and Mexico, because it will cost too much money, when we spend 4-5 times that amount EVERY year on the 15 million plus criminal illegals who simply walked across that border. Think about opposing a physical barrier, not because it costs too much money, but because if we did away with nearly 100 years of socialist welfare state federal spending and entitlements to citizen and criminal illegal alike, we wouldn't need to build a wall to stem the tide causing us to spend roughly 20 billion every year caring for the criminal illegals who walk across that border?

How do you find common ground with people who are so wrapped up in "if everything was magically how I want it" that they can't possibly support the first little baby step toward actually having things the way they want them?

Hopefully seeing how the left is not content with academia and the media and wants to control everything, including sports, will prod conservatives into action