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re: Amendment 2 on church exemptions
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:10 pm to npt817
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:10 pm to npt817
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The moment churches begin holding Get Out the Vote activities or endorse a given candidate, they should lose their tax exemption, immediately
100% this
But what if they receive billions to human traffic and are an accomplish to children being handed over to peadofiles, should they be exempt?
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:19 pm to npt817
Make their overdue taxes retroactive when they forfeit their tax exempt status and watch them become staggeringly neutral overnight.
I promise if you make an example out of Macadamia Jubilation Congregation, the others will miraculously fall in line.
I promise if you make an example out of Macadamia Jubilation Congregation, the others will miraculously fall in line.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:25 pm to BlackAdam
quote:Plus, the money that we give to our Church has already been taxed. Why tax it again when the Church has "income"? Most are struggling to stay open (excluding Catholic Churches as I assume they are pretty flush).
Why? Plenty of tax exempt not for profits have a politically motivated purpose. Why do you want to silence churches?
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:27 pm to JiminyCricket
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the overwhelming majority of churches are small and don’t have near the income/resources people think they do.
While true, I dated a girl in a podunk dirt-road country town outside of Hattiesburg called Mozelle (pop. 300+). The kind of town that takes 20 mins to get to the nearest Walmart. They had 6 churches in a 2-mile span. Totally unnecessary. You don't need as many churches as there are General Dollar stores.
Furthermore, far too many of the medium-to-large churches have used the religious tax-exemption to help fund their child-rape cover-ups, incendiary anti-white racist activism, violent anti-american incitement, woke political agendas/movements, LGBT priests/pastors, Drag Queen appearances, lavish mansions, luxury vehicles/jets, exotic vacations, etc. If any business deserves to get taxed, it's those I've just listed.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:33 pm to LSUFreek
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Furthermore, far too many of the medium-to-large churches have used the religious tax-exemption to help fund their child-rape cover-ups, incendiary anti-white racist activism, violent anti-american incitement, woke political agendas/movements, LGBT priests/pastors, Drag Queen appearances, lavish mansions, luxury vehicles/jets, exotic vacations, etc. If any business deserves to get taxed, it's those I've just listed.
And the solution to this issue is to give more money to state and federal governments who have done all of those things and more?
I’m not saying the big C church hasn’t had it share of black eyes but I’ll pretty much never advocate for our government to get more tax dollars.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:34 pm to tankyank13
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Churches in Louisiana are already getting killed by higher insurance costs.
Why is that the people of Louisiana's problem?
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:39 pm to LSUconvert
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Why is that the people of Louisiana's problem?
Why is the government entitled to a cut of a persons donations when they’ve already taxed their purchases, income, property, etc? They want a piece of the leftovers too?
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:46 pm to JiminyCricket
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And the solution to this issue is to give more money to state and federal governments who have done all of those things and more?
If Apple, Google, Starbucks, Disney, etc, can fund shady causes/agendas on the side & still be taxed, why does Cardinal Cupich, Louis Farrakhan, non-peaceful muslim imams, Joel Osteen, etc. get to laugh their way to the bank?
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:51 pm to LSUFreek
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If Apple, Google, Starbucks, Disney, etc, can fund shady causes/agendas on the side & still be taxed, why does Cardinal Cupich, Louis Farrakhan, non-peaceful muslim imams, Joel Osteen, etc. get to laugh their way to the bank?
You can frame it how you like. Fundamentally, you’re arguing for more taxes paid to a government that is nothing but waste and fraud.
Also, organizations that subsist off of donations and for profit companies like Apple aren’t the same thing.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:52 pm to JiminyCricket
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Why is the government entitled to a cut
The constitution.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:56 pm to LSUconvert
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They lumped the teacher pay raise in this one hoping to get more yes votes. I’m voting no on this one
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:57 pm to LSUconvert
Please link where the constitution outlines the government’s right to tax a donation given from what’s left of a persons already taxed income.
It’s wild to me some off yall simp for this government to get MORE tax dollars.
It’s wild to me some off yall simp for this government to get MORE tax dollars.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:09 pm to JackieSonnier
So my earnings that are already taxed will be taxed again even though it’s a donation?
Did a democrat write this amendment?
No on all amendments. We have become too accustomed to passing constitutional amendment to avoid passing laws in Louisiana.
Did a democrat write this amendment?
No on all amendments. We have become too accustomed to passing constitutional amendment to avoid passing laws in Louisiana.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:09 pm to JiminyCricket
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Please link where the constitution outlines the government’s right to tax
Oh boy.
I'd check Article 1.
Maybe just read the whole thing while you're at it.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:19 pm to JiminyCricket
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Also, organizations that subsist off of donations and for profit companies like Apple aren’t the same thing.
Hookers & escorts require "donations" before you meet, and are illegal, even if you call it a "gift". Religious leaders with the gift of gab "sell" words, much like a therapists/psychologists, that intends to guide a member to their way of thinking, even if the "donations" are called "offerings" or "tithes". It's a glorified business, no pun intended.
To your larger point about feeding chronic waste/fraud/abuse, all we can ask for is smaller government, but even if it is achieved, greed & corrption will still exist. But even a small government needs funding: tariffs, corporate & comsumption taxes. I am totally against individual income taxes, as Thomas Jefferson wrote in Article 1, but not corporate taxes. Churches are businesses, imo, despite their status/claim otherwise.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:20 pm to KingOrange
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Done with the Church’s getting 5013C status.
You could take the 501(c)3 status away from every church in the United States and churches would still pay exactly $0 in income taxes.
You’ll have to find another way to punish churches for your hatred of them.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:24 pm to LSUconvert
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Oh boy.
Oh boy is right you’re a mouth breather. It’s not in there
Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:26 pm to Sweep Da Leg
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It’s not in there
Maybe read it again. I promise you, it's there.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:02 am to LSUFreek
quote:Sounds like your only exposure to churches is either from TV or from some mega church.
Churches are businesses, imo, despite their status/claim otherwise.
Most churches are small and barely stay afloat. They are certainly not businesses.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:17 am to KingOrange
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Done with the Church’s getting 5013C status. Churches have become what they are not supposed to be. Teach the Gospel.
501(c)(3) was spawned by LBJ in the mid-50s. Prior to that, churches were not taxed nor limited as to how much they spoke on "political" issues. Trump wanted to do away with it in 2016. Not sure if he's pushing to repeal it now or not.
If churches teaching all that Jesus commanded (Matthew 28:20), they will speak to policies, laws, candidates, etc. Politics affect people. People created in the image of God, people whom God loves, and people for whom Jesus died. Churches are Scripturally compelled to address political issues.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 1:00 am
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