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re: Am I the only one who thinks what Trump said to Woodward is the right thing to say?

Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:47 pm to
It doesn't make sense to vilify him for trying to keep a country calm when every store in america was getting ransacked and no one had toilet paper.
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Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:49 pm to
Our meat supply was on the brink at the time as well. PPE was in shambles.

We were probably closer to chaos than we’d like to admit.

Trump’s fumbling of his early response rhetorically to the virus probably kept us from being able to really do a two week shutdown and then come right back. It’s not the only factor, but it’s a big one.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:53 pm to
I said the same thing earlier. The liberals/ progressives did not like that. Any good leader would not want to instill fear and panic. His travel ban showed that he took it very seriously in his actions. Don't we always hear that actions speak louder than words? And people criticized him heavily for the travel ban (even though we now know that it's highly likely that it saved many lives and saved additional people from suffering from the virus early on when it was most difficult to deal with). Trump shut down the economy in March. Again, actions...

The WHO, CDC and Fauci were all against wearing masks early on and the WHO and CDC pleaded for people not to buy them due to hospital demands. Fauci actually laughed at the idea. Trump basically followed the advice of the experts. Fauci is the Director of the Institute for Infectious Diseases and has served 6 presidents and he said he didn't think the virus was anything that Americans had to be really worried about. shite happens, unfortunately. America rarely gets hit hard or at all by these sort of viruses, but this was that one that had some impact.



Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:53 pm to
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doesn't make sense to vilify him for trying to keep a country calm when every store in america was getting ransacked and no one had toilet paper.

But he didn't stop the panic. The lie didn't achieve anything positive. All it did was feed the mistrust in the system. Some folks proceeded without caution and paid for it based on the word of the president.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:59 pm to
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Some folks proceeded without caution and paid for it based on the word of the president.


Did he not follow the advice of the experts? Doesn't about half the country claim that every word out of his mouth is a lie, yada yada yada... Would they listen to him no matter what he said? I'm going with a "no" on that one.
Posted by Plx1776
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:00 pm to
I don't like it, because not telling me makes it seem like I'm a baby who can't handle the truth. But...I get it. While a lot of us don't partake in mass hysteria, a LOT of people do. Had trump stoked the fires of panic, the mass hysteria would've probably been a lot worse than it was. I'd have to worry about getting stabbed over a roll of toilet paper.
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:02 pm to
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Am I the only one who thinks what Trump said to Woodward is the right thing to say? by Northwestern tiger
I don’t get the outrage.
Trump was trying to calm the fears. It’s like a sinking boat captain trying to calm the passengers and avoid mass hysteria. That’s what leaders do.

I think this should help Trump.



Trump wasn’t totally off base with his comments the issue is after 4 years of the Gaslight Media trying to take you out you have to know when to distance yourself from the SOBs......like 3 years ago. Lol!
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:02 pm to
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Doesn't about half the country claim that every word out of his mouth is a lie

It turned out they were right about it in this instance. The folks trusting him were the ones to suffer.

This isn't the end of the world but it certainly highlights the craziness when folks just defend it period.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:04 pm to
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It turned out they were right about it in this instance


What were they right about specifically
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:05 pm to
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While a lot of us don't partake in mass hysteria, a LOT of people do. Had trump stoked the fires of panic, the mass hysteria would've probably been a lot worse than it was. I'd have to worry about getting stabbed over a roll of toilet paper.


Exactly. He didn't even show panic and I was still having to look for The Advocate on the streets so I had something to wipe my arse with. And People were buying all the meat up like it was the cure for the virus.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:05 pm to
Thst Trump wasnt a reliable source for accurate information on the corona virus.

Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:08 pm to
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Thst Trump wasnt a reliable source for accurate information on the corona virus.



Why wasnt he a reliable source?
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:15 pm to
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It turned out they were right about it in this instance. The folks trusting him were the ones to suffer.

This isn't the end of the world but it certainly highlights the craziness when folks just defend it period.


The guidelines and actions given were clear. The administration took action. The administration did not take the situation lightly. This story is stupid.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:16 pm to
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The folks trusting him were the ones to suffer.


No. They weren’t.
Posted by MizzouBS
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:18 pm to
This book is not just about COVID. 18 interviews and we have heard just a few sound bites. There is a good chance we hear more controversial stuff.

Trump told Woodward classified info about a new nuclear weapons system. That is not info he should be talking about with a journalist. (He can declassify anything he wants).

This is just the first day of released recordings.


Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:22 pm to
I assume his team already knows everything that was said.
Posted by Kattail
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Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:56 pm to
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I haven't heard them on tape saying they knew it was much deadlier than the flu


Oh come on, now who’s being dishonest. You know all the Dems get on their self righteous high horse to accuse and criticize Trump, exaggerate and misrepresent his words.
Posted by llfshoals
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Posted on 9/10/20 at 12:23 am to
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Meh. I don’t need the gov to protect me from the truth. I don’t need to be infantilized
You don’t. You have a functioning brain.

A good 60% of the population would be killing each other to empty the grocery stores. Which unfortunately would end up with a lot of the idiots eating each other when they’re starving.

Which I’d be completely ok with, if their idiocy wasn’t causing me to go hungry too. Now while lord knows missing a few meals would probably be a good thing for me, I actually know how poor nutrition affects people.

God forbid I have to see any more of that. West Africa back in the 80’s was enough for one lifetime.
Posted by teeMike
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Posted on 9/10/20 at 12:57 am to
As a citizen, I can only speak on what I would like to have known. I feel there had to be a way he could have presented straight facts without instilling or inciting irrational fear. Downplaying it simply gave a false sense of security where in which that time could have been spent in preparation. History will not look kind on how our government, Republicans & Democrats, handled this crisis. This was not the time to play bullshite politics which both sides were guilty of. This was an opportunity to show that in a major national crisis we, as a country, are able to unite and put politics aside. My only hope is that we learn and are better prepared for not IF, but WHEN it happens again.
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 9/10/20 at 12:58 am to
Agreed :usa:
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