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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:56 pm to Northwestern tiger
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If the establishment went ahead with it, it will set a precedent...They can remove anyone that doesn't conform to their expectations with no regards to democracy.
How many times have presidents been the subject to witch hunts of some type or another?
How close was Clinton to being impeached for getting a BJ instead of the actual crime they were investigating him for?
How close was Andrew Jackson to being impeached for simply being unlikable?
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:57 pm to SleauxPlay
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At the outset of the investigation, Mueller was respected and impartial among the PT board. He has predictably now morphed into a partisan hack.
Certainly his hiring nothing but democrat attorneys and morphing the investigation from "Russians hacked the election" into looking for personal financial issues in the last century has nothing to do with that. You guys want to see an interesting investigation - try the clinton Foundation.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:57 pm to skrayper
quote:He was impeached
How close was Clinton to being impeached for getting a BJ instead of the actual crime they were investigating him for?
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:58 pm to Breesus
Tell us more mr internet badass.
LMFAO
LMFAO
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:58 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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How much do you reckon I discussed impeaching his predecessor?
i have no idea.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:59 pm to SleauxPlay
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Mueller could have Trump on video, literally blowing Putin in exchange for DNC hacks, and somehow this would be further evidence of the establishment, running roughshod over our political system.
I don't believe there will be any evidence of collusion. Most likely obstruction is the way it will go.
The issue is, the left has thrown everything at this president. I'm not a supporter, didn't vote for him and don't think he's been very effective however, the opposition has been ridiculous.
People like myself will lost what little faith we have if this continues.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:59 pm to JuiceTerry
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How close was Clinton to being impeached for getting a BJ instead of the actual crime they were investigating him for?
He was impeached
And it turned out to be one of the worst legislative blunders of the late 20th century.
But, hey, we'll show 'em this time!!!
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:59 pm to Northwestern tiger
I Think there is an inescapable reality for the future of this country.A revolution by the working class is inevitable,and predicted and prepared for,by The Founding Fathers through The Constitution.
If The D.C. establishment is determined to derail the will,of the majority The voters, they will just be making it clear what they think of us.
They feel that they, their children,and their grandchildren through perpetuity,are destined to rule over us all. Any threat to that,is going to be stopped with extreme prejudice,using any tactic they have.
We should all face it,it's going to have to happen,and this might be the best time.
If The D.C. establishment is determined to derail the will,of the majority The voters, they will just be making it clear what they think of us.
They feel that they, their children,and their grandchildren through perpetuity,are destined to rule over us all. Any threat to that,is going to be stopped with extreme prejudice,using any tactic they have.
We should all face it,it's going to have to happen,and this might be the best time.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:00 pm to LakeCharles
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Certainly his hiring nothing but democrat attorneys and morphing the investigation from "Russians hacked the election" into looking for personal financial issues in the last century has nothing to do with that. You guys want to see an interesting investigation - try the clinton Foundation.
Do you think it's possible that Trump's finances (and more likely, the finances of his associates/campaign staff) could be related to the initial investigation? Nah, no way.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:01 pm to DuncanIdaho
quote:what is it that he did?
He's done it all himself.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:02 pm to Northwestern tiger
Buying into Looney Toon bullshite conspiracy theories and ignoring reality will do that to you.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't believe there will be any evidence of collusion. Most likely obstruction is the way it will go. The issue is, the left has thrown everything at this president. I'm not a supporter, didn't vote for him and don't think he's been very effective however, the opposition has been ridiculous. People like myself will lost what little faith we have if this continues.
I agree, on some level. The histrionic criticisms of Trump's character (however justified they might be, given his moronic public persona) are wholly distinct from what has been suggested *might* have occurred during the campaign. We'll know soon enough if Mueller is bringing garbage charges to the table. The objective evidence would suggest that there is something to the investigation beyond political frickery. Honestly, given the absolute shitshow that is American politics at the moment, I hope there isn't. If only for the sake of moving the frick on as a country.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The issue is, the left has thrown everything at this president. I'm not a supporter, didn't vote for him and don't think he's been very effective however, the opposition has been ridiculous.
you sure do a lot of time backing him for not being a supporter.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:09 pm to SleauxPlay
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Honestly, given the absolute shitshow that is American politics at the moment, I hope there isn't. If only for the sake of moving the frick on as a country.
There's no "moving on" I'm afraid.
This is what it is now.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:13 pm to Northwestern tiger
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If the establishment went ahead with it, it will set a precedent...They can remove anyone that doesn't conform to their expectations with no regards to democracy.
They can come up with BS scheme/excuse and indict anyone.
I did not vote for Trump nor did I vote for anyone in the general election; but seeing what they're doing to him made it easier for me to support him
This is big coming from you. We have had plenty of disagreements, and I know you aren't a Trump fan at all. It is good to see even folks that don't really like Trump(myself included) are disturbed by the coup going on in DC. They only want their people in power, and are trying to keep that stranglehold. They are telling the rest of us "screw you and your choice."
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:15 pm to SoulGlo
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This is big coming from you. We have had plenty of disagreements, and I know you aren't a Trump fan at all. It is good to see even folks that don't really like Trump(myself included) are disturbed by the coup going on in DC. They only want their people in power, and are trying to keep that stranglehold. They are telling the rest of us "screw you and your choice."
But in reality, neither you nor I know what Mueller is bringing to the GJ. You are making so many unfounded, emotional assumptions.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:18 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Hey BHP -
I'm not your down-voter but allow me to dive in and state, perhaps, the obvious:
They (Trump's opposition, the establishment, the Far Left, the MSM) do believe a threat to their 'gravy train' is impeachable -obviously.
The demand should be, 'define 'their gravy train'. I would define that as a swampy goulash of power, influence, and money with absolutely nothing to do with the fundamental interests of the American citizenry...
I'm not your down-voter but allow me to dive in and state, perhaps, the obvious:
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Is it your opinion that being 'a threat to their gravy train' IS, indeed, an impeachable offense?
They (Trump's opposition, the establishment, the Far Left, the MSM) do believe a threat to their 'gravy train' is impeachable -obviously.
The demand should be, 'define 'their gravy train'. I would define that as a swampy goulash of power, influence, and money with absolutely nothing to do with the fundamental interests of the American citizenry...
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:23 pm to Northwestern tiger
If the republicans are retarded enough to impeach trump they'll lose the support of a ton of voters and essentially will be giving power back to the left. Even though it shouldn't surprise me that they do retarded things. Especially after doing nothing since they've gotten the majority in the Senate and the House.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:27 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
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If the republicans are retarded enough to impeach trump they'll lose the support of a ton of voters and essentially will be giving power back to the left.
They could be stuck between a rock and a hard place if mueller drops something big!
Impeach trump - Base fricks them
Don't Impeach trump - Independents frick them
If they weren't such assholes, I might feel sorry for them.
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