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re: Allow me to introduce to our LEFTies a 100 year old Truth.... The Roosevelt Easement
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:39 am to JuiceTerry
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:39 am to JuiceTerry
Next time you drive down the interstate look to your left then look to your right and think about the landowner who owned that land. When the interstate system was put through it cut right through the middle of people’s farms. Now you have land on one side and to get to the other side you have to drive miles down the road to get to a place to cross the interstate and drive back up to where your land is. The interstate is effectively a wall to all of the land owners who own land on both sides. Same way with the Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway when it was put in. To the land owners it was just a wall across their land.
Not like this is unprecedented to take land from people. Yes it absolutely sucks if you are the landowner but it has been going on since the start of our country.
Not like this is unprecedented to take land from people. Yes it absolutely sucks if you are the landowner but it has been going on since the start of our country.
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:42 am to Jjdoc
Is this the first time a “For Dummies” link has been posted to PB hahah?
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:47 am to AggieHank86
This is the worst part of political discourse, people hear “facts” that they want to believe and will defend those “facts” even in the face of clear evidence to the contrary.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:47 am to Dale51
quote:Not really. Landowners can challenge the validity of the “public use” and the validity of the “emergency” itself.quote:Thats nice.
most of the land belongs to state governments or private owners.
I would guess that a National Emergency can pretty much tell those people..."That's nice...but, move your shiit out of our way".
May or may not have success, but the avenue IS there.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:47 am to highcotton2
I'm aware of how ED works
I-75 goes through my mom's family's land
I-75 goes through my mom's family's land
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:48 am to LSUbest
quote:
Roosevelt easement provided the federal government with a 60-foot border right-of-way on which it could build the fence
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:59 am to Ham Malone
quote:
This is the worst part of political discourse, people hear “facts” that they want to believe and will defend those “facts” even in the face of clear evidence to the contrary.
Now do global warming, or "Trump is a racist!", or "Solar panels and windmills are the future for energy production!"
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:01 am to AggieHank86
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Landowners can challenge the validity of the “public use” and the validity of the “emergency” itself.
May or may not have success, but the avenue IS there.
I agree. That would not stop the construction. Until that would be ruled on, it's "That's nice...but move your shiit out of our way."
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:04 am to JuiceTerry
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I-75 goes through my mom's family's land
I hear that if she, or anyone else, would have simply refused them from doing that on their land, they would have stopped the project cold!
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:06 am to TBoy
You were the first poster to bring up Trump. You are wrecked with TDS and your dad should be embarrassed
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:07 am to Dale51
quote:You are mistaken. A lawsuit to challenge the validity of a given “taking” (as opposed to the compensation) does bar the actual “taking” until the matter is resolved.quote:I agree. That would not stop the construction. Until that would be ruled on, it's "That's nice...but move your shiit out of our way."
Landowners can challenge the validity of the “public use” and the validity of the “emergency” itself.
May or may not have success, but the avenue IS there.
All other things being equal, I suppose that Trump could start construction on an adjoining parcel, but all other things are not equal. You can bet dollars to donuts that someone will file a suit and get injunctive relief against the entire Emergency Declaration ... stopping all construction and all land acquisition until the validity of the Declaration is resolved.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:08 am to JuiceTerry
Do you live near a border?
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:12 am to Dale51
quote:Then you are listening to idiots. That is not remotely what anyone here is saying.quote:I hear that if she, or anyone else, would have simply refused them from doing that on their land, they would have stopped the project cold!
I-75 goes through my mom's family's land
Roadway construction (especially expansion of existing roadways, which describes the vast majority of the interstate highway system) has long been established as a valid use of eminent domain. The same cannot be said of the Wall project, as currently envisioned.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:14 am to Dale51
It’s appropriate that you’d read my post as a personal indictment
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:15 am to AggieHank86
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The same cannot be said of the Wall project, as currently envisioned
That’s just your opinion. And a bad one at that. We already have infrastructure along much of the border. Besides, that land was all stolen from brown people anyway, remember,
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:15 am to AggieHank86
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A lawsuit to challenge the validity of a given “taking” (as opposed to the compensation) does bar the actual “taking” until the matter is resolved.
During a National Emergency?
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:16 am to AggieHank86
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The same cannot be said of the Wall project, as currently envisioned.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:16 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The same cannot be said of the Wall project, as currently envisioned.
What are you basing that on?
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:18 am to Ham Malone
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It’s appropriate that you’d read my post as a personal indictment
I think you read my comment wrong.
By what stretch did you take it as a "personal indictment" one way or the other??
Serious question.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:24 am to Dale51
quote:Yes. The NEA does not suspend the Constitition. Iit simply allows the POTUS to spend money on construction that would otherwise be “legal” ina general sense, but not necessarily “authorized” by other legislation.quote:During a National Emergency?
A lawsuit to challenge the validity of a given “taking” (as opposed to the compensation) does bar the actual “taking” until the matter is resolved.
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