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re: All student visas were just 'halted' by the Trump Administration.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I thought it was the opposite.
Universities subsidize costs for Americans by over-charging foreign students.
Pretty sure the majority of foreigners at a school like LSU are there on scholarship
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:29 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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Yes let's all pretend to those protests have zero anti-American elements to them. Let's also pretend they were peaceful and didn't Target Jewish students who were American citizens
I'm no fan of Israel. The Jewish Lobby is far too powerful in America for a variety of reasons. But no matter how far down the list of favorites Israel Falls they're still about 10 notches above anything related to Islam
Regardless. We're not going to let you come to our country as a fricking guest and take over our campuses while threatening American citizens students no matter how much we may like or dislike Jews specifically
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:30 pm to Sweep Da Leg
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Dude I have nephews and know many with kids that are getting left out of bigger schools for foreign students
Sounds like you want DEI.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:31 pm to Bunk Moreland
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This is pretty big brother/Orwellian:
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The new expansion would apply social media vetting to all student visa applicants, not just those flagged for activism. Under the screening process, consular officers would examine applicants’ posts, shares, and comments across platforms such as Instagram, X, and TikTok for content they deem to be threatening to national security, which has since been tied in to the Trump administration’s stance on combating antisemitism.
student visas are a *PRIVILEDGE* so why shouldn't we at least attempt some type of vetting before letting them in.
don't want to be scrutinized? great, stay in your SHITHOLE country.
i guess you were ok with thousands of people losing their jobs due to 'liking' the wrong social media post and getting cancelled by the Woke mob though right?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:31 pm to stout
Reuters
CNN
High fees paid by international students help US universities balance their books
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Because international students are more likely to pay full tuition, they essentially subsidize other students who receive aid, said educational consultant Chuck Ambrose, former president of the University of Central Missouri.
CNN
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And foreign students, who are more likely to pay full tuition compared to their American counterparts, bring significant funding to colleges.
If they choose to take their dollars elsewhere, it could spell financial trouble for the US colleges that rely on them.
“A lot of universities are already under financial strain from a variety of reasons (including) the recent efforts by the Trump administration against certain elite institutions to claw back federal aid to those institutions,” Stephen Yale-Loehr, a retired Cornell University immigration law professor, told CNN. “So a drop in international students will hurt those institutions even more.”
High fees paid by international students help US universities balance their books
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More than 1 million international students study in the US, making up about 6% of all university enrollment.
They contribute $40 billion to the economy annually, and most of these students pay full fare. US universities and colleges have come to depend on tuition fees to keep the lights on, though only some students are wealthy.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:32 pm to CAD703X
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i guess you were ok with thousands of people losing their jobs due to 'liking' the wrong social media post and getting cancelled by the Woke mob though right?
Which government policy was this?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
I will concede I was wrong
I always thought most were here on scholarships
I always thought most were here on scholarships
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:you mean the lie detectors and background checks (including knocking on the doors of family & neighbors) when applying for a government job?
Which government policy was this?
like that?
eta and that's for AMERICAN CITIZENS. not charity-case foreigners from other countries who have all kinds of motivations to do harm to us.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Because international students are more likely to pay full tuition, they essentially subsidize other students who receive aid, said educational consultant Chuck Ambrose, former president of the University of Central Missouri
This along with your other quoted paragraphs actually support the idea that universities need to pay a price for inviting people into the country who are culturally incompatible with our country. Universities have expanded costs exponentially beyond the pace of inflation. Their number of non-teaching labor force has become absurd. And if you're telling me that one of the reasons they're able to do this is by bringing in people who fricking hate us. By bringing in people who will shut down our universities and attack students are American citizens. That I'm going to tell you thank you for letting me know just one more reason to tell the universities to pound fricking sand. We're not going to let you play this stupid game in our country anymore where you subvert the very Nation you depend upon
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:34 pm to CAD703X
You should be opposing all crap like that. What I've learned the last four months is the right doesn't really care about free speech or civil liberties. They just want payback with their guy in power. I don't blame y'all for it, but it's going to hurt real bad in the future with these doors Trump is opening.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:35 pm to stout
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They aren't competing on a level playing field with Americans. Why do they get special tax and loan considerations to buy a business that Americans don't? Why do you support them having such an advantage over citizens?
Here is a crazy idea - why not address those systemic imbalances instead of shutting them out completely?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:36 pm to Bunk Moreland
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What I've learned the last four months is the right doesn't really care about free speech or civil liberties.
LINK
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:37 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:see above.
You should be opposing all crap like that. What I've learned the last four months is the right doesn't really care about free speech or civil liberties. They just want payback with their guy in power. I don't blame y'all for it, but it's going to hurt real bad in the future with these doors Trump is opening.
my brother took a job w/ the government back in 1991 and he had to pass multiple lie detector tests, looked up his driving history at the DMV and yes, the feds showed up and shadowed him for a few days and knocked on doors in the neighborhood asking to vouch for his character.
you worried about Mohammad having to endure something similar before we let his arse in?
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:37 pm to stout
The less foreigners the better. They hate the US so let them get an education in their own shite holes.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:37 pm to Bunk Moreland
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ou should be opposing all crap like that. What I've learned the last four months is the right doesn't really care about free speech or civil liberties. T
Youre falling into the trap that holds that Trump is right wing, because he isnt, and neither are his supporters.
Trumps far closer to an authoritarian Democrat.
Thse people arent "right wing." And I suspect they only pretended to be at one time because they hated Obama.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:38 pm to stout
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I always thought most were here on scholarships
I think that's true in sports
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:38 pm to Powerman
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why not address those systemic imbalances instead of shutting them out completely?
Got to start somewhere... why not shut them all down, revamp the evaluation system, then reopen it?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:38 pm to Powerman
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Here is a crazy idea - why not address those systemic imbalances instead of shutting them out completely
While I understand your sentiment let's not pretend that the universities and for that matter the left in general hasn't become exceptionally good at creating enormous games of whack-a-mole.
Heck you see it with immigration. The left wants every swinging dick you can drag his arse across the border to have some protracted due process at the same time the left is totally content to let Millions upon Millions drag their arse across the border. All the while knowing there's no way we could fricking process them all sort of completely shutting down our court system. The same game applies here
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:39 pm to Powerman
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Here is a crazy idea - why not address those systemic imbalances instead of shutting them out completely?
Because liberals have not met a minority group that they don't want to subsidize for votes. Well, except for Asians because they are too smart and successful for Dems
Until that changes, I am all for shutting out foreigners
None of them come here on a level playing field. Zero!
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:40 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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Universities have expanded costs exponentially beyond the pace of inflation. Their number of non-teaching labor force has become absurd. And if you're telling me that one of the reasons they're able to do this is by bringing in people who fricking hate us.
Ignoring your emotional framing, the argument is without this subsidizing of tuition, American students will have to pay more.
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