re: All schools need to be made hard target areas

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My proposal is having open carry armed police on grounds at all time and REQUIRE note I said not ask but require a certain % of all teachers keep a handgun in their classrooms under a biometric fingerprint safe.

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You’re talking about about a massive increase in police forces across this country. No thanks. What you can do is repeal unconstitutional gun free school zones, and allow teachers who are willing to undergo testing and training to carry weapons, paying them a stipend to do so. If no, or not enough teachers are willing to take that responsibility, then you can require school districts to hire armed security, with said security going through the same testing and training a teacher would have to complete.

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All schools need to be made hard target areas
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I’m sick of seeing these things happen and some people closing their eyes like they can’t see the only thing possible that could intervene. The cops will not save you. You aren’t going to thanos snap guns. MAKE SCHOOLS HARD TARGETS. My proposal is having open carry armed police on grounds at all time and REQUIRE note I said not ask but require a certain % of all teachers keep a handgun in their classrooms under a biometric fingerprint safe. These teachers will not be made public and no one would know which ones did or did not have guns

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Stupid. Some of you have lost the plot on this shite and sound no different than leftists responding emotionally with more govt involvement and spending.

As I said on the OT:

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Are we as a country ready to accept that security measures such as this are unwarranted and are an overreaction to a rare problem? Despite making headlines, your chances of being the victim of a school shooting are extremely low.

Better to focus attention on the cafeteria, where generation after generation of kids is being poisoned with frankenfood.

I think it's quite obvious we've disastrously overspent (Iraq War) and over-allowed (Patriot Act, etc.) for terrorism. That should be a red flag for you on school shooting over-reaction.

Do you care to put some actual numbers on it? As far as I can tell, there's 650ish dead in 2024. How would that compare to: deaths in transit to/from school? Student suicides? Student death/disability due to diet-based illness/disease?

I submit that this problem is WAY down the list. If it weren't for the age of mass media, you'd have no idea this was even going on if it wasn't in your local school district.

And there are mental/pyschological downsides to entering spaces constantly patrolled by LE.

I would be quite surprised if schools weren't still statistically the safest places for children to be.

The bottom line is that in a country of 330 million people, school shootings just aren't that big of a problem.

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But yeah. We gotta stop letting Democrats and snowflakes getting in the way of us doing whatever we can to stop this shite.

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What shite? Extremely rare events that kill way less people than just driving to and from school?

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How do the kids treat you in the school?

We have a handful of shitheads, but 98% are either cool or just indifferent. We try to keep kids out of the criminal justice system as best we can. Even when I break up fights they just handle it internally with no charges. Unless the kids are committing a crime, they never deal with me at all. I don't interject myself into administrative matters like truancy or dress code.

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Right on.
Also cool that you try to look out for them, in other ways besides just as security/LEO

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Dude, how many states have given in to the gun grabbers, over public outcry in the areas where these happen?
Little Davy Hawg was absolutely a nobody until one of these events. Now he's a millionaire, running a multimillion dollar antigun club.
We have media running rampant, giving too much spotlight on this crap, encouraging more to do it, to martyr themselves for a week of fame.
For a couple of years, we had students and parents afraid of their kids being in schools. Some still are.

Look at the overall picture. The overall effect.
We have to stop this shite man.

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I actually now have no idea what your point is.

MY point is that school shootings - while tragic - are thankfully quite rare, and thus we shouldn't be "doing" anything...certainly not turning schools into patrolled prisons.

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For a couple of years, we had students and parents afraid of their kids being in schools. Some still are.

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Is this a covid remark? What does that have to do with school shootings?

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You seem to be the one clutching your pearls over a tiny problem - and then wanting to install dumb "solutions" like armed teachers, metal detectors and the like.

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You're not a snowflake, but you're spouting snowflake crap.
Sure. Ok then, is fairy more appropriate?

So you're clearly not concerned with the issue, by your words. (Kind of disturbing, in itself)
But it concerns you enough to argue about it. Makes sense.

Mental health is your answer. All our kids need is shrinks. Yeah, 30 years ago, we found out how much that doesn't work. Everybody and their brother and sister were going to shrinks. Look where that got us now.

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For a couple of years, we had students and parents afraid of their kids being in schools. Some still are.
Is this a covid remark? What does that have to do with school shootings?

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COVID had some people scared, yeah. But I wasn't talking about that.
I'm talking about kids who are bringing guns to school, and leaving them in their cars, in case a shooter event happens.
Or kids that don't want to go to school, if there's a shooter. Or parents that didn't want to send their kids to school because of a shooter.

Aren't you aware that the antigun lobby is a multimillion dollar industry that robs us of our rights? And how much they profit from these events? Or do you not care about that either?

Do you live under a rock? You're not very in touch with a lot of things happening out there.

I doubt anyone would find many teachers willing to carry a gun at school. Plus, a kid could storm the teacher and take the gun. Adding more guns in classrooms won’t make them safer.

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Some of the teachers are nuts and would be a danger to themselves and others with guns;

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. As a HS teacher I have to agree. There are a lot of teachers that should not be teaching or should've retired a long time ago.

If the shooter is a student that has authorization to be at school it is hard to prevent a handgun from getting on campus. AR-15 is a different story. Metal detectors have been tried but when you have 3,000 students all showing up when the tardy bell rings, it will take all of 1st period to get them in school.

We should make it very difficult for outside persons to gain access to the students, and we need to do a much better job at identifying those students that are mentally ill and pose a threat. In a Christian school like the one in Madison, that kid spouted her hate to somebody. This could've been prevented,