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re: All 4 MUSLIM Shooters Caught…What that tells us.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:07 am to ElChupacabra
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:07 am to ElChupacabra
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:10 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:I really don't know what the "typical" ISIS follower's profile is.
So, if this is the case, would it be correct to say it's not really "ISIS," in the typical understanding of who that is?
If ISIS targets Sunni Muslims who live in extreme poverty and who blame and hate western Christians for their problems, then Tajikistan would be a prime recruiting territory, I would think.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:11 am to ValhallaAwaits
MUZZIES GONNA MUZZIE
we only have 1400 fricking years of evidence.
you are overthinking all of this
we only have 1400 fricking years of evidence.
you are overthinking all of this
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:14 am to LSURussian
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I really don't know what the "typical" ISIS follower's profile is.
If ISIS targets Sunni Muslims who live in extreme poverty and who blame and hate western Christians for their problems, then Tajikistan would be a prime recruiting territory, I would think.
Perhaps so, but it seems that would still point to a bit more complicated or distinguishable situation than simply saying "it was ISIS who did this."
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:18 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:It's my impression that the main reason people are saying "it was ISIS who did this" is because within hours after the attack a confirmed ISIS website announced it was responsible and posted body camera video from the attackers of the slaughter in the concert building.
it seems that would still point to a bit more complicated or distinguishable situation than simply saying "it was ISIS who did this."
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:19 am to Y.A. Tittle
It wasn't the ideological hardcore terrorist type. Whatever part of ISIS claiming responsibility were paid and directed by the CIA. IMHO
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Islamic jihad – there are no datapoints in the known fact-pattern that align with ISIS-K as the originator. Additionally, the four suspects were captured by mostly Muslim Chechan security forces in the Bryansk Region of Russia.
That said, the largest datapoint, pointing away from the ISIS-K origin, is the USIC so quickly identifying ISIS-K as the perpetrators.
Remember, this is the same USIC who claimed in the December 2016 Joint Analysis Report on the election that Russia had interfered (via Greezy Bear and Macadonian bot farms). The same USIC who claimed in their January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment, with a “high degree of confidence,” that Russia influenced the 2016 election (by spending $1,300 on FaceBook ads). And the same USIC that claimed the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation (it wasn’t). So, take SSCI Marco Rubio’s confidence in the USIC with that backdrop.
LINK
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:23 am to LSURussian
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LSURussian
You get proven wrong about where they were captured after insulting the guys intelligence, then you're no longer interested in that topic?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:42 am to Fat Bastard
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you are overthinking all of this
That idiot just repeats dumbass opinions. He can't overthink shite.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 11:01 am to LSURussian
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LSURussian
I thought your analysis and theory here was interesting. The "it was just ISIS" narrative gives plenty of outlets an out from having to even attempt doing anything similar.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 11:55 am to ElChupacabra
quote:Your own link says, "Previous reports claimed that the vehicle carrying the alleged terrorists was stopped near the town of Teplyi, more than 200 kilometers (125 miles) to the west, just 16 kilometers (10 miles) shy of the Belarusian border, and roughly 200 kilometers from the Ukrainian border. Belarusian Ambassador to Russia Dmitry Krutoy also stated that Minsk’s special forces “helped prevent the terrorists from escaping across the shared border.”"
You get proven wrong about where they were captured
Some guy looking at a photograph and seeing trees along a highway and then claiming he knows the exact location where those trees are is ludicrous.
If you want to believe Ukraine was behind the attack that's fine by me, although it would make no sense for Ukraine to sponsor a barbaric event that would alienate the entire Western world when it continues more than ever to need the West's support in its war with Russia. Dumbass.
quote:WTF?
then you're no longer interested in that topic?
BTW, what was your previous screen name before you started using your current alter?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:02 pm to LSURussian
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Some guy looking at a photograph and seeing trees along a highway and then claiming he knows the exact location where those trees are is ludicrous.
You could've just said that you know nothing about how anons work. Anons are undefeated, baw-ski.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:09 pm to LSURussian
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For those here who don't know, Tajikistan, the home country of the terrorists and where I've worked in the capital Dushanbe, is a hotbed of Russian hatred because of almost 80 years of religious repression by the Soviets. It is also the smallest and poorest, by far, of all the former Soviet republics. It is a mountainous country with one valley where almost 80 percent of the population lives. Its water supply is exclusively glacier melt which means the water is heavy with glacial silt. I had to clean out the toilet tank every other day just to remove the silt settled in it so it would flush.
Its Muslim population is closely culturally related to ethnic Iranians although Tajik Muslims are predominantly Sunni while Iran is predominantly Shi-is.
I found the Tajik people to be very distrustful and almost sullen towards any foreigner. After my two week assignment working there I told my handlers in the U.S. I would not go back there again for any amount of money.
Yes and so they were easy to recruit and pay. Not one of them mentioned a holy war or allah or anything else. They made no mention of grievances for something that happened before they were even born.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:11 pm to lake chuck fan
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ISIS claiming responsibility were paid and directed by the CIA. IMHO
Based on what and to what end?
CIA bad isn’t an answer.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:13 pm to GnashRebel
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Based on what and to what end?
CIA bad isn’t an answer.
Based on Victoria Nuland's very own claim that the war against Russia was going asymmetrical.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:13 pm to LSURussian
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I found the Tajik people to be very distrustful and almost sullen towards any foreigner. After my two week assignment working there I told my handlers in the U.S. I would not go back there again for any amount of money.
I actually found it to not be so bad, minus the diarrhea.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:15 pm to TS1926
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Yes and so they were easy to recruit and pay. Not one of them mentioned a holy war or allah or anything else. They made no mention of grievances for something that happened before they were even born.
I don't take terrorists for their word. Especially after having the shite beat out of them. If that's a cornerstone of your opinion, you failed.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:15 pm to ValhallaAwaits
The Islamic State attacked because of Russia’s support of Assad in Syria. Putin is trying to pin the attack on Ukraine for obvious reasons.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:16 pm to jrodLSUke
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Meanwhile, these dumb, dirt poor Muslims have been murdering people all over the world for centuries, and their motivations have never made any sense.
Their holy book tells them to do it.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:16 pm to sta4ever
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The odds Ukraine did this are the exact same as Russia doing this themselves, which means neither of those things happened. Take off the Putin glasses for once.
Oh here's the "muh Russia, duh, huh, ehhhh" guy. You probably loved the Russians back when they were commies.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:17 pm to TS1926
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Based on Victoria Nuland's very own claim that the war against Russia was going asymmetrical.
Then you can use that for any bad thing that happens in Russia for the rest of the war.
What value would this serve for Ukraine. If anything it makes things worse. Blowing up infrastructure or supporting facilities of the military is one thing. Capping twenty something’s at the club serves no purpose. Unless you are isis and this is literally what you love to do.
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