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Alarmists Resurrect Theory That Global Warming Is Making Winters Colder

Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:34 pm
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Research purports to bolster theories that man-made warming is leading to colder U.S. and European winters, but buried in the paper is an admission undercutting its findings.

The study, published in a “Nature Communications” January 2018 issue, claimed historical data showed an East Coast cold snap is two to four times more likely when the Arctic is abnormally warmer than when the pole is colder. It’s not a widely accepted theory among climate scientists, but the study’s made the rounds in the media, touted as more evidence man-made warming is making U.S. winters colder.

The study “basically” confirmed “the story I’ve been telling for a couple of years now,” the study’s co-author, Rutgers University scientist Jennifer Francis, said. “This is no coincidence” and that “it’s becoming very difficult to believe they are unrelated,” Francis, who’s regularly cited in the media during intense cold snaps, added.

That theory resurfaced this winter during a prolonged cold snap in the eastern U.S., which lasted from around Christmas 2017 to mid-January. Cold and snow pummeled the northeast, and former Vice President Al Gore claimed it was the product of man-made warming. Francis’s new study confirms that theory, she said.

Buried in the study, however, is a section on limitations undercutting the mainline findings. JunkScience.com publisher Steve Milloy pointed out the admissions on Twitter.

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Boom… Nature study admissions undercut almost all climate studies: 1. Correlation not causation.
2. Historical record inadequate.
3. Physical mechanism not understood.
https://t.co/hV4Ov5algS pic.twitter.com/pVv6Iirlgn — Steve Milloy (@JunkScience) March 14, 2018


“The most obvious is common to all observational analysis, i.e., correlation does not mean causation,” the authors wrote in their study, adding “even though elevated heights and warmer temperatures in the Arctic are positively correlated with more frequent severe winter weather in the mid-latitudes, we cannot conclude that the warmer Arctic is responsible.”

More importantly, the authors “have not offered mechanistic explanations for these relationships” but instead try and argue “our findings are consistent with previous studies linking a warming Arctic with extreme winter weather in NH mid-latitudes,” they admit.

The authors basically admit they are not testing any hypothesis; they are just running the numbers and looking for some sort of correlation between Arctic warmth and cold snaps in the northeastern U.S. and Europe.


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Hey, I have a correlation. How about that big orange ball in the sky? How about the solar cycle as measured by sunspot activity? You know, the very thing that provides most of all the energy on earth. That thing.




I said this on December 8, 2017:

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Expect this winter and the next couple of winters to be pretty cold. It has everything to do with the solar cycle. Earthly temperatures correlate quite well with solar activity as measured by sunspots. When that big nuclear fusion ball is quiet things tend to get cool here on earth and when she gets bitchy things tend to get warm.





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Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28625 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:35 pm to
Where ever the money is at, yo...
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:35 pm to
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Where ever the money is at, yo...


You're right.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37538 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:37 pm to
These people flip so much they should work at Burger King
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:37 pm to
Climate change is creating extremes in summer and winter both, yes.

Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:37 pm to
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Where ever the money is at, yo...


You're right.



Actually i think it has les to do with money than it does power.

Carbon is life. CO2 is the gas of life. controlling CO2 is essentially control over life.

its control over energy markets. agriculture. industrial production. birth of children. length of life.

its fricking insidious bullshite proposed by literal ghouls.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:38 pm to
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Climate change is creating extremes in summer and winter both, yes.




so 3 years ago where we had a warm winter and a hot summer?

fail. moron.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:40 pm to
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Where ever the money is at, yo...


So oil company disinformation campaigns then?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:43 pm to
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Actually i think it has les to do with money than it does power.

Carbon is life. CO2 is the gas of life. controlling CO2 is essentially control over life.

its control over energy markets. agriculture. industrial production. birth of children. length of life.

its fricking insidious bullshite proposed by literal ghouls.


I suppose if there was an angle to attack O2 they'd do the same as they are trying to do with CO2. People naturally believe O2 is vital for life and fail to realize that CO2 is just as important. Maybe not in the short term but after a month or two without CO2... we gone.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:44 pm to
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So oil company disinformation campaigns then?


What is the disinformation?
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:45 pm to
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so 3 years ago where we had a warm winter and a hot summer?
record breaking heat in winter would be an extreme, yes
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:46 pm to
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I suppose if there was an angle to attack O2 they'd do the same as they are trying to do with CO2. People naturally believe O2 is vital for life and fail to realize that CO2 is just as important. Maybe not in the short term but after a month or two without CO2... we gone.



regulating and taxing CO2 is taxing life.

you emit CO2. Everything you eat, use, consume, medical care...creates MORE CO2.

regulating CO@ is regulation over all parts of life.

You want to have a child...that requires purchase of 20k CO2 credits for the cost of the birth and CO2 expenses to feed, cloth, and care for the child.

You want to train for athletics? that costs 5k CO2 credits for increased demand.

You want to live past 40? thats 1k CO2 credits per year.

You want anything...thats going to cost you.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:47 pm to
You are spot on.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54212 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:47 pm to
Except for one cold snap around Christmas, this is the warmest winter I can remember at my present address of 31 years. We average about 3 snow events per year. Didn't have the first one this year.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:49 pm to
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You are spot on.




it's fricking feudalism all over again.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:52 pm to
decades long deception

Not really hard to understand when you see it threatens people's business
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101470 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:52 pm to
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Climate change is creating extremes in summer and winter both, yes.



What does this mean?
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13166 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:55 pm to
They have every alternative covered now with Climate Change.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105414 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:58 pm to
They had to tie the winters in somehow.

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Expect this winter and the next couple of winters to be pretty cold. It has everything to do with the solar cycle. Earthly temperatures correlate quite well with solar activity as measured by sunspots. When that big nuclear fusion ball is quiet things tend to get cool here on earth and when she gets bitchy things tend to get warm.


Truth
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:56 pm to
Harvard has a new doctoral program in Bullshitology, specializing in sustaining climate science.

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