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Alabama's redemption arc is the best story of 2019 so far
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:27 pm
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:32 pm to cokebottleag
Shooting them in the head would be easier.
Signed: Alabama Resident
Signed: Alabama Resident
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:36 pm to cokebottleag
They are the 8th or 9th state to do this. Not new
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:38 pm to MrLarson
Is there a national championship for 'Murica? Cause Bama has got it locked down so far. Gonna be hard for anyone to top telling Culverhouse to frick off and here's your money. Bama don't want it and don't need it. Think I'll send some money down there. Respect
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:45 pm to cokebottleag
I don't think this gets through the courts without some voluntary participation angle. As in agreeing to be chemically castrated in exchange for early release. If the constitution matters then it has to matter all the time and not just when it's convenient.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:48 pm to shinerfan
What does the constitution have to do with this? Stop defending child molesters.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:50 pm to cokebottleag
I'm very proud of my adoptive state, the only thing that would make me happier would be if we started executing them right after trial
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:06 pm to dcbl
been upheld in other states believe Idaho is one, they have to prove that they are a risk to society.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:13 pm to shinerfan
quote:folks around here don't understand that kind of logic or common sense
If the constitution matters then it has to matter all the time and not just when it's convenient.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:23 pm to shinerfan
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If the constitution matters then it has to matter all the time and not just when it's convenient.
How many kids peckers have you sucked on, pervert.
You are probably all for killing unborn children.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:31 pm to arcalades
quote:where in the constitution does it say child molesters should not and cannot be castrated or executed?
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If the constitution matters then it has to matter all the time and not just when it's convenient.
folks around here don't understand that kind of logic or common sense
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:58 pm to dcbl
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in the constitution does it say child molesters should not and cannot be castrated or executed?
The problem is that our legal system has flaws (like any other) and mistakes can/have been made. What if evidence shows up later that the victims LIED about being raped.
Alabama has learned nothing from the MeToo fiasco. People can LIE about being raped or abused. What if that was the case?
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:01 am to volod
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Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) of the United States Constitution prohibits the federal, state, and local governments of the United States, or any other government, or any corporation, private enterprise, group, or individual, from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines, or cruel and unusual punishments, in any part of the US, on US property (i.e. a US embassy), or against any US citizen, or any resident of the US. This amendment was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the United States Bill of Rights.[1] The phrases in this amendment originated in the English Bill of Rights of 1689.
eighth amendment wiki
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:13 am to volod
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The problem is that our legal system has flaws (like any other) and mistakes can/have been made. What if evidence shows up later that the victims LIED about being raped.
Happened to a close friends husband, a troubled child accused him, nothing in his past or since then to suggest he had issues, took a plea to avoid not being able to see his kids till they were adults. He will have to register as a molester for the rest of his life. Actively involved in church and charity fundraising, again he took a plea to avoid the possibilty of a much worse sentence.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:25 am to AU66
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Happened to a close friends husband, a troubled child accused him, nothing in his past or since then to suggest he had issues, took a plea to avoid not being able to see his kids till they were adults. He will have to register as a molester for the rest of his life. Actively involved in church and charity fundraising, again he took a plea to avoid the possibilty of a much worse sentence.
There is a flip side to that coin.
My uncle abused me, my brother and not sure about my sister.
Tore our entire family apart, no charges ever pressed. My brother outed him in a book he wrote two years ago. That motherfricker needs a shotgun discharged in his mouth but people will scream "his rights"
frick his rights.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:38 am to cokebottleag
Ah yes nothing like not letting rape victims get abortions and possibly chemically castaring innocent people
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:01 am to AU66
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Happened to a close friends husband, a troubled child accused him, nothing in his past or since then to suggest he had issues, took a plea to avoid not being able to see his kids till they were adults. He will have to register as a molester for the rest of his life. Actively involved in church and charity fundraising, again he took a plea to avoid the possibilty of a much worse sentence
Which is all the more reason these laws are ridiculous. Look, I get it. We want the bad people to get what's coming. But law is and always will be a double edged sword. Even our Founders knew that and specifically restrict Government ( see my 8th Amendment post) . In their wisdom they knew no system created by man would ever be perfect.
My concern is about innocent people. Metoo revealed a fatal flaw in how we process sexual assault. My prayer is that Alabama really take all these things into consideration.
Dont become the monster you hate.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:05 am to MrLarson
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frick his rights.
This goes back to the two inescapable truths about law.
You either create a harsh system that theoretically could hurt an innocent life permanently.
Or you create a system bad enough to punish a bad person, but offers enough leeway to rescind the punishment if evidence suggests that crime was not committed.
I don't understand why many chose the former given there isnt a 100% secure way to determine every possible scenario.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:22 am to volod
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My concern is about innocent people.
I understand there are falsely accused people. I come at this from a personal perspective and knowing this SOB needs to die.
When there is 100% proof, that fricker needs to die.
My uncle fled from Prattville, Al to Eugene, Or 6 years ago for no real reason...other than he'd fricked up again.
Victims really don't want to come forward because it is embarrassing for them. #metoo just fricked real victims more than anything.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:41 am to MrLarson
1st off why take a deal if you did nothing wrong. i know many people in prison and everyone of them that took a deal did something wrong even if they didn't want to admit it first.
2nd chemical castration just reduces the urges to want to have sex, person could still have sex but the drive isnt there. Also, can be reversed if needed in future.
3rd this is the same as ankle monitors while it might slow down crime it wont prevent it if someone is willing and wanting to commit a crime, just a false sense of security. I never understood the sex offender registry laws as that is all they do is provide a false sense of security and offer no real protection.
2nd chemical castration just reduces the urges to want to have sex, person could still have sex but the drive isnt there. Also, can be reversed if needed in future.
3rd this is the same as ankle monitors while it might slow down crime it wont prevent it if someone is willing and wanting to commit a crime, just a false sense of security. I never understood the sex offender registry laws as that is all they do is provide a false sense of security and offer no real protection.
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