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re: Alabama AG says he has the right to prosecute those who facilitate out-of-state abortions

Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:06 am to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:06 am to
Is it cool for me to go to Ukraine as a mercenary because I enjoy killing?
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:08 am to
This is how the Republican's will lose the election.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:09 am to
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I agree. But the AG is following the law as its written.


its a bad law, and shite like this leads to national protections.

If you are against abortion in your state, you better fight shite like this. Because shite arse politicians with ambition will destroy your ideals under the guise of protecting your interests.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:09 am to
There are so many who have fallen face first off their rockers.

If there was a clandestine abortion clinic in Alabama somewhere and a person drove woman to have an abortion, I could see how the law would apply.

But, to say that your state law covers acts of a citizen of your state for acts committed in a neighboring state is reaching, to say the very least.

Plus since this is across state lines I would think the Federal Courts would end up having jurisdiction under the IC clause.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:11 am to
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This is how the Republican's will lose the election.


Exactly. Stop trying to appease the extremist element.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:11 am to
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What’s being missed in all of these arguments is the fact we are arguing the legality of murdering babies.

Actually, nobody is arguing this. Abortion is legal in some states and illegal in some states. That isn't up for debate.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:12 am to
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But it's reality and setting dangerous precedents through shady use of the criminal justice system is not the solution.

You would think fans of Trump would understand this pretty well by now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:12 am to
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Is it cool for me to go to Ukraine as a mercenary because I enjoy killing?


I would personally support the US sending violent criminals abroad to fight, if we ever get fully involved.

I would hope every Ukrainian supporter and homicidal maniac would go fight.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:13 am to
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But, to say that your state law covers acts of a citizen of your state for acts committed in a neighboring state is reaching, to say the very least.



If I mail money for someone to purchase a firearm to murder someone in another state should my state be able to charge me with conspiracy?
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 8:14 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:15 am to
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Should an Ag enforce his states laws?

Not if they're illegal.

Ask BRPSO about this and the LA state laws making homosexual sex illegal
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:15 am to
Murder is a crime in both states. You’re missing the fundamental part of this.

And in your scenario, the Feds likely step in.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:15 am to
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If sent you money to purchase a firearm so you could commit murder in another state should I be charged with conspiracy in my state?


This question only seems relevant if the state you're traveling to for this planned murder actually allows killing people.
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 8:16 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:17 am to
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Would it be OK to plan/organize a trip to Nigeria with the intent to have sex with an 11 year old while here in the US?

I don't think that federal law is/should be constitutional.

Nor do I think that a person should be prosecuted for soliciting a minor when they were really talking to an adult pretending to be a minor.

I really thought by now that Trump supporters would understand the dangers of our current criminal justice system.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:17 am to
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I would hope every Ukrainian supporter and homicidal maniac would go fight.


We could empty our prisons.
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 9:55 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:17 am to
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Is it cool for me to go to Ukraine as a mercenary because I enjoy killing?

Sure. I think some Americans did do that, also.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:18 am to
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If I mail money for someone to purchase a firearm to murder someone in another state

That murder is a crime in that other state. Not a comparable situation here.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28181 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:19 am to
Already addressed.
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 8:20 am
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3237 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:19 am to
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This question only seems relevant if the state you're traveling to for this planned murder actually allows killing people.


Thanks for making my point. Alabama considers abortion as murder.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:20 am to
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Thanks for making my point. Alabama considers abortion as murder.



quote:

if the state you're traveling to for this planned murder actually allows killing people.


Why did you insert Alabama as the bolded part?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 9/2/23 at 8:21 am to
I think we have a pigeon shitting on the chess board and thinking he’s winning
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