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re: Alabama AG says he has the right to prosecute those who facilitate out-of-state abortions
Posted on 9/2/23 at 9:51 am to Hickok
Posted on 9/2/23 at 9:51 am to Hickok
quote:Holy Crap!quote:“that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.“
Republicans enjoying doing unConstitutional things.
You talking about this constitution?
Are you really this ignorant?
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Posted on 9/2/23 at 9:53 am to boosiebadazz
quote:They absolutely DO ... on the half of the issues where they prefer state-level authority.
Nah, but if we’re going back to originalism and the understanding of federalism and primacy of the States at the time of the Founding Fathers then we need to embrace the States as laboratories of democracy as dictated by the Full Faith and Credit clause.quote:
I’m sure the constitutional conservatives who overwhelm the poli board agree.
The other half? Not so much.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 9:54 am to RollTide1987
quote:It does NOT MATTER.
What’s being missed in all of these arguments is the fact we are arguing the legality of murdering babies.
Principles of federalism govern here, not the preferences of any one state regarding its criminal laws.
You ARE the Lib, screaming "if it saves only ONE child ....!!"
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 10:11 am
Posted on 9/2/23 at 9:56 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:He is certainly "Exhibit A" in demonstrating the distinction between Constitutional Conservatives and SoCons.
(This AG) must be one of those limited small govt type of conservatives.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 9:59 am to boosiebadazz
quote:To be expected. It is Dalton.
Based on that precedent, why would conspiring to perform an abortion inside the state of Alabama not be illegal?quote:
Because it’s fundamentally different in ways you don’t seem to understand.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 10:04 am to Azkiger
quote:You and a buddy drive to an adjoining state for this trip. You alternate driving. By driving part of the way, he conspired with you, for YOU to violate the law. By driving part of the way, you conspired with him, for HIM to do so.quote:They seem to be going after those providing transportation, not the women having the abortion.
Alabama baws planning certain types of hunting trips in another state might need to reflect before celebrating this.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 10:08 am to captdalton
quote:
I'm not for any iteration of this type of law. Even the one that prosecutes child rapists who go abroad.
No shite. Groom groom.
This movement is an example of the slippery slope. I'm not sure why you folks want more persecution.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 10:10 am to boosiebadazz
quote:Common problem here.
I think we have a pigeon shitting on the chess board and thinking he’s winning
Posted on 9/2/23 at 10:16 am to wackatimesthree
quote:There is nothing "extreme" about federalism or states' rights.quote:Then why don't you like it? Are you saying you espouse extremist right wing ideals?
It totally flies in the face of right wing ideals regarding federalism and states rights.
They are the principles on which this country was founded.
quote:Yes, he DOES tend to do that, regularly.
aren't you being just as hypocritical about supporting state's rights when they involve something you like, but against them when the question involves something you don't like?
As I said above, most of this board's "conservatives" are BIG on "federalism" ... on about half of the issues. the other half? They are screeching for a unitary "solution."
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/2/23 at 10:18 am to Perfect Circle
quote:
I'm anti-abortion, but this would be a dangerous precedent to begin.
I hate abortion, but its a lost cause and I realize it.
I also don't want women who arent fit to be mothers having kids. Whores dont change.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 10:20 am to wackatimesthree
quote:Ideological consistency baffles small minds.quote:Wrong.
And everyone on this board would have no problem with this law if it was used for other purposes than abortion.
I'm not for any iteration of this type of law. Even the one that prosecutes child rapists who go abroad
Either you believe in the PRINCIPLE of federalism, or you do not. Sometimes, it WILL produce results that you don't like. That comes with the territory.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 10:20 am to BamaAtl
If you only let the democrats pervert the justice system against republicans, you are playing a losing game. I hope liberals enjoy having the justice system weaponized against them now. You started it.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 10:23 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:He is one of the screaming zealots who will insist that "abortion is murder," no matter how many times you cite him to the relevant parts of the criminal code.quote:But you're not, though. All states consider murder illegal. Not all states consider abortion illegal
l I'm just trying to explain the logic they are using.
Trying to use logic to debate a zealot is a lot like trying to beat your way through a brick wall with a limp noodle.
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 10:29 am
Posted on 9/2/23 at 10:30 am to Drizzt
quote:
I hope liberals enjoy having the justice system weaponized against them now.
Will never happen, the legal profession is overrun with activists.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 11:17 am to Azkiger
quote:
Would it be OK to plan/organize a trip to Nigeria with the intent to have sex with an 11 year old while here in the US?
Most people don’t want to discuss this angle. I think the whole premise is fundamentally unjust but our law and its application is infested with politics.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 11:48 am to AggieHank86
Don't disagree with your position. I just made that one comment and that part of it "may have merit". Honestly, did not read much about it. As I posted, everything he does is based on politics. I've spoken with him one on one about an issue. He is obsessed with political angles that further his career.
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But his Advisory seems to be MUCH broader than this particular organization. It could EASILY be applied to the next-door-neighbor who drives Jim to the airport for that trip to Colorado for skiing and weed.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 1:08 pm to captdalton
quote:
No shite. Groom groom.
I wonder if you guys know that this board is pretty infamous in the college sports online community for having a large concentration of the dumbest, most mindless, tribal posters on the internet congregating here.
You are among that number earning its widespread reputation.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 1:11 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:
I wonder if you guys know that this board is pretty infamous in the college sports online community for having a large concentration of the dumbest, most mindless, tribal posters on the internet
You must be a reddit poster. they all speak the exact same way and use the same language.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 1:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
I hate abortion, but its a lost cause
That's an obsolete cop-out at this point. That's what "moderates" used to say when no one thought Roe v Wade would ever be overturned. You could get away with sighing and acting helpless back then. Not any more.
At this point there's been more roll-back of abortion over the past 4-5 years than there has been change in anything else in American politics with the exception of enabling the mental illnesses of people who think they are something they are not.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 1:13 pm to Drizzt
quote:
I hope liberals enjoy having the justice system weaponized against them now. You started it.
Just need a DOJ takeover like the Obama era. Install activist lawyers in high positions and treat them like they did us.
It will not be as effective as the true believers in the department now though.
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 1:14 pm
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