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re: Air Raid Sirens going off in ALL OF UKRAINE as Russia Launches Massive Bombardment!

Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7144 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:14 pm to
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It appears Russia has taken the gloves off and is now going after their critical infrastructure like power plants as blackouts are being reported all over the nation.


Well, when the other side is getting billions of $$ in military aid and equipment, what should we expect? The war will get broader.

However, Ukraine is playing a gambit. This counter attack will chew up lots of their stockpile equipment, munitions and troops. If it fails, then aid might dry up or, worse, Russia makes significant gains.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3736 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:26 pm to
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The best way to stop an offensive in the modern era is to turn the power off and make communications with the front go dark.


Lol
Desert Storm. What was one of the first things the U.S. targeted?
I guess that was a defensive manuver.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:30 pm to
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 7:32 pm
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3736 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:30 pm to
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The cards he has played so far kinda suck.


Some of it could be probing to find where the "help" from western countries was placed.
He may know where he needs to lay the smack down now.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110998 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:13 am to
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You are gullible if you think Ukraine is close to winning this war
Sure but what most here don't realize is you're equally gullible if you think Russia has done anything but massively fail at their plan for this war. Russia can and likely will win the war but even with that win, it has still been a clear and obvious disaster of a war for Russia.

Russia is basically the highly ranked college football team with the 55 point win spread and will eek out a 4 point victory. Nothing to be terribly proud about.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74012 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:14 am to
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you think Russia has done anything but massively fail at their plan for this war.


Well what was their plan?

Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12954 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:17 am to
Send more Billions
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39460 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:26 am to
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True. But he [Putin] hasn't played all of his cards.

He hasn't had all the cards played against him, either.

If he had it to do again, Putin would not invade Ukraine. It has been a nightmare for him, and will get worse. He will not live to see Russia rise from this.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39460 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:28 am to
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I want Zelensky's head

Taking that Zelensky-love a little far.
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GooseSix

Didn't realize you swung that way.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 8:29 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39460 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:31 am to
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The straw man is strong in this one.

He gave a great analogy, and you can't seem to find an answer.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39460 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:35 am to
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Desert Storm. What was one of the first things the U.S. targeted?
I guess that was a defensive manuver.


Your argument is lame. A defensive tactic can also be an offensive tactic - shooting rifles as an example.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110998 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:37 am to
You think what has happened has been their plan? Of course you do.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110998 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:39 am to
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He gave a great analogy, and you can't seem to find an answer
That dude has yet to make a single point. He just tells insults which just obviously tells you he's insecure and knows he doesn't know what he's talking about so he just hurls insults to avoid actual discussion. Not sure why the other dude kept engaging him.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260947 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:42 am to
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Sure but what most here don't realize is you're equally gullible if you think Russia has done anything but massively fail


What were their goals?

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110998 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:44 am to
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What were their goals?
A shite ton more than what they've accomplished to date.


You disagree?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74012 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:54 am to
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You think what has happened has been their plan? Of course you do.


I asked you a question

Why wont you answer

quote:

A shite ton more than what they've accomplished to date.


This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 8:57 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110998 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:59 am to
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I asked you a question

Why wont you answer
Bless your heart for thinking that was the gotcha question that boxed me in.


Remember at the outset of the war when the huge convoy was headed towards Kiev, and the Pro Russia poli bros collectively were stating that everyone thought Russia would just go for the SE region but Putin is actually going to take Kiev with the quickness. And then do you remember about 1 month later when that convoy was quite literally stuck in the mud, those exact same poli bros were then stating Putin was a genius because the convoy was just a massive deflection they were using to actually take over other regions...

Do you remember that, or will you pretend that didn't happen?

If that doesn't answer your question about what their goals were vs what actually has happened and how the Pro Russia poli board just moves the goalposts then I can't help you if you can't see the terribly obvious.


So I'll ask again, you actually think that this has basically gone according to plan for Russia and they've accomplished at least as much as they planned for in the 1st 7 months of this war?
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 9:01 am
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:00 am to
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What were their goals?
A shite ton more than what they've accomplished to date.
Demilitarization of Ukraine . Massive Fail.


Denazification -Regime change/ end of the "illegitimate regime " in Kiev. Fail


Contain Nato- Sweden & Finland expanded Nato on his borders. Fail



Amusing to see the angst among Putin slurpers after seeing Russian military setbacks this past week.


This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 9:24 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74012 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:01 am to
So what were Russias specific goals?

You are the one making the claim so i figured you had some insight

Yet here we are with shell doing shelly things
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110998 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:02 am to
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Amusing to see the angst among Putin slurpers after seeing Russian military setbacks this past week.

Nah man, it's all going exactly as they planned, but nevermind the same folks who tell you that were the same folks 7 months ago stating this would go about the exact opposite as what we've seen so far.
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