re: Ahmaud Arbery’s Final Minutes: What Videos and 911 Calls Show

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How he's portrayed does and should have literally zero bearing on whether or not he was illegally killed.

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Cool. Never said it did.

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attorney

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Cool. I said media. Not attorney. There’s something wrong with you.

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How he's portrayed does and should have literally zero bearing on whether or not he was illegally killed.

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It has quite a massive bearing on race relations if he is portrayed as "decorated jogger shot while jogging" when that is not what happened. The media is fascinated with painting our society as if it is pre-civil rights and people are killing black people for say, talking to a white woman, or just taking a jog. It's so far from reality it's laughable.

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How he's portrayed does and should have literally zero bearing on whether or not he was illegally killed.

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It has quite a massive bearing on race relations if he is portrayed as "decorated jogger shot while jogging" when that is not what happened.

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If I concede that, would you not also concede that the entire event concluding with the killing of AA and the subsequent coverup by the D.A.s has quite a bit more bearing on race relations in today’s America?

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If I concede that, would you not also concede that the entire event concluding with the killing of AA and the subsequent coverup by the D.A.s has quite a bit more bearing on race relations in today’s America?

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Not entirely. I can't say that race didn't play a role at all in the coverup and the killing. It may have to some extent. That's fair. At the same time, we can't all ignore the fact that McMichael Sr was a former investigator and may have received preferential treatment from the DAs because of his history. Cops covering up for other cops wrongdoing is wrong, but it certainly happens.

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Is it? In southern Georgia? I’ve got to think that, as a white man, I would feel much more safe running down a street in a predominately white neighborhood than a black man would. I think that’s a reasonable assumption. I think it’s also reasonable to infer I could have sprinted out of that house and the McMichaels wouldn’t have been so quick to grab loaded weapons, load up in their truck, and try to chase me down. They more than likely would have briefly perked up, then sat back to watch more Fox News

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You were doing pretty good until you went totally off the rails with this pile.

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This is hyperbole, but I understand you are just trying to underscore your point.

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Not so much though. People call this a "modern day lynching." It's bizarre.

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as a white man, I would feel much more safe running down a street in a predominately white neighborhood than a black man would. I think that’s a reasonable assumption.

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To be fair, I think a black man walking through a white neighborhood has an infinitesimally higher chance at walking out of it unharmed than a white man walking through a black neighborhood. I'm not implying that everything is peachy with race in our society. Just saying that it isn't at all like what the media portrays.

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I think it’s also reasonable to infer I could have sprinted out of that house and the McMichaels wouldn’t have been so quick to grab loaded weapons, load up in their truck, and try to chase me down. They more than likely would have briefly perked up, then sat back to watch more Fox News.

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That's entirely possible. Race likely played some role (large or small) as to how everything went down. But let's not pretend it's the only reason this all happened.

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To be fair, I think a black man walking through a white neighborhood has an infinitesimally higher chance at walking out of it unharmed than a white man walking through a black neighborhood

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Of course. But that’s irrelevant regarding this case.

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I'm not implying that everything is peachy with race in our society. Just saying that it isn't at all like what the media portrays.

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I honestly have avoided the media lately and haven’t seen their portrayal of any of the parties involved in this. I can imagine it’s what you suggest, though. Again though, my stance is none of that matters regarding the facts of this specific case.

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Race likely played some role (large or small) as to how everything went down. But let's not pretend it's the only reason this all happened.

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I haven’t suggested it’s the only reason at all. It’d be naive to suggest it played NO role, but like you, I’m not sure exactly how much it did. But again, my point is it doesn’t matter. You could swap races of all parties, come up with a cornucopia of colors randomly assigned to any of the players. I would be arguing the same side. It is murder.

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The media is fascinated with painting our society as if it is pre-civil rights and people are killing black people for say, talking to a white woman, or just taking a jog. It's so far from reality it's laughable.

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This.

Now everything I have seen about this killing indicates to me that it wasn’t justified. With that said, it appears to me that both parties made horrible decisions that quickly escalated into a violent encounter that resulted in a young man’s unnecessary death. It is sickening to watch it unfold in the video.

Who knows why Arbery acted as he did? I certainly don’t know. Perhaps Arbery’s fight or flight instincts propelled him to charge the man brandishing the shotgun because Arbery thought these men were intent on shooting him no matter what he did. Yet that is pure speculation on my part.

On the same token, I have no idea what motivated these two men to confront Arbery with the threat of deadly force. Who knows why these men acted as they did? I certainly don’t know. Perhaps they were backwoods racist intent on killing a black man running in their neighborhood. Yet that is pure speculation on my part.

And speaking of conjecture, why don’t we see speculative headlines in the MSM about another inexplicable murder that recently occurred? It appears a white elderly couple were targeted by a black sniper while visiting their veteran son’s grave. Reports are the shooter used a high powered rifle while lying in wait in a ditch at the tree line of a wooded area adjacent to a Veteran’s Cemetery.

Racist Black Man Shoots Elderly White Couple Visiting Their Son’s Grave...

Now, the headline above is pure speculation on my part. Who knows what sickness would propel such a depraved and random act of violence? I certainly claim no insight on that matter. And my purpose here is not to suggest that elderly white couples should fear being targeted by black racists.

Yet as a point of statistical fact, black male victims of violent crimes are much more likely to be the victim of black on black violence than violence at the hands of whites. Yet that reality doesn’t conveniently fit media-stoked narratives that American society is on the verge of regressing to Jim Crow era lynchings.

This is the result of 50 years of constant progressive brainwashing on a targeted demographic to create the false perception that blacks are perpetual victims of violent white racism by always making a point of hyping and exploiting the far rarer examples of white on black racial violence, while ignoring the far more prevalent incidents of black on black crime.

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It wasn't very well defined other than Arbery charging the son. The full HD taken from the iPhone will be crystal clear.

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There are apparently other videos. At least one of them includes the shooting.

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Don’t act like the media didn’t paint him in a certain light.

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I don't think anyone acted like that.

They're trying to understand why it's relevant. Whether we're talking about you and how you want to portray the guy's general character or the media doing the same thing.

There's enough video of this thing to reach a first hand conclusion without having to guess as to what happened and who was at fault. Character witnesses are irrelevant here.