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re: Ahmaud Arbery Timbaliers and Hammer
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:01 pm to davyjones
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:01 pm to davyjones
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Otherwise, as an example, an argument could be made that a person threatening people with a gun, say a would-be hero goes in to grab and wrestle the gun away from the threatening person but would-be hero is shot and killed in the process....in that scenario the threatening person could have a self defense claim.
Not even saying it’s self defense. It’s manslaughter at the very least, probably a lot worse.
My point is that at that point, someone is getting shot. Not saying who’s right or wrong, I have no idea.
You could add that up to that point the men with guns didn’t shoot the guy. Guys with guns are threatening automatically but that doesn’t mean they intend to shoot. If they thought this guy was robbing houses and had a hammer then obviously they were smart in having guns for protection. If they didn’t have them that guy fricks both of them up 10 out of 10 times.
With all of that being said, they were fricking stupid for getting in front of the guy and getting out of the truck. They are stupid for injecting themselves in that situation and it’s definitely their fault that man is dead and should do prison time.
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:05 pm to davyjones
I agree with you on the hammer. But this thing started with a guy jogging getting murdered for being black and jogging.
That is not the truth. He was murdered after snooping around a house. Most people agree the others are in the wrong.
The narrative continues to create racial tension ensuring this shite continues.
That is not the truth. He was murdered after snooping around a house. Most people agree the others are in the wrong.
The narrative continues to create racial tension ensuring this shite continues.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:06 pm to Caplewood
The dude was there to rob houses. He was also hunted down and murdered.
Why is this hard to understand
Why is this hard to understand
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:07 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
Well in terms of hand to hand, i.e. being able to physically restrain the guy, they should have believed that they had the upper hand there just based on two-on-one.
But one way or another, it's certainly correct that
But one way or another, it's certainly correct that
quote:
they were fricking stupid for getting in front of the guy and getting out of the truck. They are stupid for injecting themselves in that situation and it’s definitely their fault that man is dead and should do prison time.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:09 pm to 91TIGER
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We don't think the rednecks were right but that doesn't make this guy an angel either.
It's a bullshite fricking premise to start with. Whether or not a guy is an angel doesn't even enter into the discussion of getting blown away by a couple of fricking rednecks, the better part of whom ran down their daddies' pants legs.
"We don't think the rednecks were right but that doesn't make this guy an angel either."
Seriously?
Are you out of your goddamned fricking mind?
Whether or not the guy was a fricking angel is irrelevant.
Like I've said before...the guy had a shoplifting arrest on his record. That doesn't mean that some dumbass rent-a-cop at the mall or Walmart can threaten him at gunpoint. Even if he's not an "angel".
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:14 pm to BamaGradinTn
Ok since everyone is completely speculating or lying on how the events took place I’ll ask this. Is it possible people in the neighborhood, watching for this suspect, alerted neighbors and authorities, 2 civilians waited for the guy to come down the street, were armed, tried to stop the man and when the man attacked with a hammer they shot him? Is that a possibility, because since more has come out that’s what looks like happened instead of the initial story.
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:15 pm to dgnx6
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The narrative continues to create racial tension ensuring this shite continues.
Definitely true, and it's due to the illegitimate marrying together of the two completely separate and distinct discussions of (1) the strictly technical legal aspects, and then (2) the strictly emotional aspects. Two separate conversations that should not be combined. But that's very difficult to achieve in the current environment.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:16 pm to davyjones
The racial narrative is completely divorced of fact and is 100% agenda driven propaganda.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:17 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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I agree with that. They put themselves in this position because they were ex-cops with a God complex. It’s a shame that this tragedy had to happen.
The father was an ex-cop. Most retired and ex-cops still see themselves as cops to my experience.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:17 pm to JudgeHolden
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A bunch of y’all are saying the man was wearing Timbs and carrying a hammer.
I for sure noticed the boots and what appear to be cargo shorts/kackies from the jump.
Not jogging gear.
Always wondered what that was in the street..
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:18 pm to Madking
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2 civilians waited for the guy to come down the street, were armed, tried to stop the man and when the man attacked with a hammer they shot him? Is that a possibility, because since more has come out that’s what looks like happened instead of the initial story.
That's not what the police report says.
If the idiot rednecks had claimed that they would have a chance.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:18 pm to Auburn1968
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The father was an ex-cop. Most retired and ex-cops still see themselves as cops to my experience.
An cops protect them as well.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:20 pm to BuckyCheese
Not what I asked at all and it’s telling you pick and choose when you want to believe the “rednecks” and when you don’t. Also using racial smears doesn’t really give your racially sensitive chastising much weight does it?
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:22 pm to BuckyCheese
“An cops protect them as well.”
So how many groups do you plan to broadly smear for your agenda?
So how many groups do you plan to broadly smear for your agenda?
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:23 pm to JudgeHolden
Who cares?
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:24 pm to Madking
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Madking
You sound mad.
Redneck is a racial smear now? Heavens, sorry to offend you.
*No, I'm not sorry.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:26 pm to Madking
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:35 pm to BuckyCheese
“You sound mad”
Says the guy throwing racial smears in every post, making racial assumptions based on nothing and attacking anyone trying to vet the information or not willing to parrot the “white devils killing people everywhere” philosophy. Like every other one of you I’ve ever encountered literally everything you allege you yourself are 100% guilty of.
Racist scumbag
Says the guy throwing racial smears in every post, making racial assumptions based on nothing and attacking anyone trying to vet the information or not willing to parrot the “white devils killing people everywhere” philosophy. Like every other one of you I’ve ever encountered literally everything you allege you yourself are 100% guilty of.
Racist scumbag
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:40 pm to BuckyCheese
I dont see any evidence this was racial or that the two guys set out to kill him. What I saw was two guys who thought they were protecting their neighborhood and a victim who tried to get the shotgun which led to his death. The dad should not be charged and the son should get manslaughter and serve 7-10 years.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:49 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
Under Georgia law, McMichael abused his right . He approached a man on a public street who was unarmed in an affirmative manner. Meaning that when McMichael got out of his truck with a shot gun and his son had his pistol drawn against a person who was not previously threatening either of them.
There is no legal scenario where McMichael is justified.
There is no legal scenario where McMichael is justified.
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