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re: Ahmaud Arbery had a history of claiming to be a jogger to cover for criminal activities.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:17 am to Turbeauxdog
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:17 am to Turbeauxdog
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Fact: Arbery was trespassing and stupid rednecks were immediately aware
how were they "immediately aware"? did they witness it?
if you want to argue this, please don't cite civil caselaw
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Fact Trespassing with intent to steal is a felony is Georgia
what secondary or tertiary knowledge did they have that he had an intent to steal? even with your expanded view of "immediate", they had no evidence whatsoever of his intent, nullyfing this argument entirely
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knew Arbery and his previous felonious behavior from his work with the pd.
irrelevant to their knowledge of this particular incident, which is all that matters
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The state of Georgia created a law where two parties could both reasonably believe they were acting within their rights and the law and wind up in a violent situation
only if you have a very...interesting definition of "reasonable"
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:19 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Chuck thinks defending yourself when you’re being held up by thugs is illegal lmao
yeah exactly. this shite is crazy
there were people who committed violent felonies in this scenario. Arbery was not one of them
there was only one person who could legally defend himself with force. Arbery was that person
these guys are posting like they're some fricking liberals (emotional mind readers) defending violent thugs
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 10:20 am
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:20 am to troyt37
What if you don't own the property nor did you confront the alleged perpetrator on said property or even in close proximity? Can you attempt a citizen arrest just on a whim?
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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these guys are posting like they're some fricking liberals (emotional mind readers) defending violent thugs
They don't care about crime or violence. They agree with the rednecks that "fricking n*****" have no place in a white neighborhood.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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committed any sort of violent crime in this scenario
Nice job sneaking in violent
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:27 am to KiwiHead
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What if you don't own the property nor did you confront the alleged perpetrator on said property or even in close proximity? Can you attempt a citizen arrest just on a whim?
Define immediate, or I guess the jury will decide.
I don't even know if the defense is using citizens arrest.
Courts haven't allowed it on much more clean examples in Georgia from my recollection, but if we've learned anything over the last 5 years. Laws don't matter anymore.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:28 am to Bulldogblitz
quote:Well, no one in this thread is making that argument.
Jogging while black"...
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:30 am to Turbeauxdog
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Nice job sneaking in violent
nothing is snuck
that's how one party (Arbery) gets pretty much free reign in defending himself, which means he is legally authorized to "go for the gun" in response to a violent felony being committed upon him
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 10:31 am
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:32 am to AggieHank86
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Well, no one in this thread is making that argument.
exactly
one group in this thread is arguing using facts and logic
the other is arguing using emotion and media narratives
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:34 am to Breauxsif
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Real facts the media nicely chose to omit, showing how much of a POS Arbery was.
In other news water is wet. But yea this is the case in the majority of all the Dems ‘heroes’ that meet that unfortunate end.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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nothing is snuck
Then it was intentional and a meaningless non retort to his statement.
Try not wasting our time.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:37 am to Turbeauxdog
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Then it was intentional and a meaningless non retort to his statement.
it's not meaningless. there were one set of violent criminals in this scenario (those he's defending) and he's talking about stopping crime in their neighborhood. we can assume Arbery is guilty of burglary and it's still not the major increase in crime in that neighborhood that day. and that increase is the bad kind (violent crime) that none of us want in our neighborhood
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 10:38 am
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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one group in this thread is arguing using facts and logic
There is nothing logical about defending Arbery, or denigrating the McMichael family. It's pilpul, and feminine, anti-logic.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:38 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Chuck thinks defending yourself when you’re being held up by thugs is illegal lmao
No, actually, I don't. Arbery was the thug and the McMichael family were the good citizens. That's exactly what why the case was never charged initially.
Then Ben Crumpians got involved, and here we are... Thousands of self loathing, weak men jumping on his bullshite narrative.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 10:45 am
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:40 am to ChuckO1975
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There is nothing logical about defending Arbery,
see this is dishonest and an example of an emotional mindset
you don't have to defend Arbery in order to indict the violent criminals in this scenario
hell, Arbery could have committed racial genocide prior to this day and it wouldn't change the facts of the situation because it wouldn't permit the violent crimes of the McMichaels. Arbery doesn't have to be innocent for the McMichaels to be guilty, and your refusal to accept that is either based in emotion or a lack of intelligence
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denigrating the McMichael family
i don't support violent criminal thugs. why do you?
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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it's not meaningless
Of course it is.
You're (usually) better than that.
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Arbery is guilty of burglary and it's still not the major increase in crime in that neighborhood that day. and that increase is the bad kind (violent crime) that none of us want in our neighborhood
This is a batshit logical fail. Think about for a while and see if you can recover.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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aggravated assault, a violent felony
Wrong.
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because they chased him and cornered him and he's permitted to defend himself against violent criminals
He fled the scene of a crime, resisted being detained, charged a man with a shotgun, hit him several times, grabbed the shotgun, got shot. He initiated violence by committing crimes, which he spent his entire life doing. frick him, and all the weak, low T cowards melting their brains over this.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:43 am to ChuckO1975
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There is nothing logical about defending Arbery
i believe in self defense against violent criminals and the right of all of us to live without fear of violent thugs
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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i don't support violent criminal thugs. why do you?
Yes you do. You strain every fiber of your being defending the one who died.
You and AggieHank are the barometer of our society, sadly. Incredibly talented men, wasting their talent on destructive nonsense instead of leading others to something greater than simping for the most destructive people in our society.
It saddens me greatly.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:43 am to Turbeauxdog
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This is a batshit logical fail. Think about for a while and see if you can recover.
are you arguing the McMichals didn't commit violent crimes?
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