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re: Ahmaud Arbery had a history of claiming to be a jogger to cover for criminal activities.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:44 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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believe in self defense against violent criminals and the right of all of us to live without fear of violent thugs
Glad to see you on team McMichael.
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:44 am to ChuckO1975
quote:One need not “defend Arbery” in order to conduct an objective analysis of the elements of the crimes at issue.
There is nothing logical about defending Arbery
Most everyone indicting Clan McMichael has acknowledged that Arbery was probably a little punk and petty thief.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 10:46 am
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:45 am to ChuckO1975
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resisted being detained
you're permitted to do this when the detention is illegal
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harged a man with a shotgun
you're permitted to defend yourself with force when a person commits aggravated assault with a firearm against you
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grabbed the shotgun
perfectly legal self defense against violent criminals directly threatening you with that shotgun
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He initiated violence by committing crimes,
this is wrong. in the worst interpretation of his behavior, he never committed a violent crime. burglary is not a crime of violence. theft is not a crime of violence.
aggravated assault with a firearm? crime of violence
false imprisonment? crime of violence when force used
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:46 am to ChuckO1975
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frick him, and all the weak, low T cowards melting their brains over this.
perfect example of emotional displays
try learning logic and using facts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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You don't have to defend Arbery in order to indict the violent criminals in this scenario
Yes, you do!
To say otherwise is to claim there was no chain of events involved here, ans that Arbery was "hunted down", which is a LIE. A blood libel, if you will, against White men. Particularly against Southern White men.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:47 am to ChuckO1975
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You strain every fiber of your being defending the one who died.
because violent thugs killed him
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It saddens me greatly.
what saddens me is seeing all the emotional thinkers in here irrationally defending violent thugs
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:47 am to ChuckO1975
Reading this thread and goodness you are a dumbass
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:47 am to ChuckO1975
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Glad to see you on team McMichae
i don't live in fantasy land, so no
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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try learning logic and using facts
Logic is a masculine character trait, and it eludes you. That can be solved though, it just takes hard work.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:47 am to ChuckO1975
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To say otherwise is to claim there was no chain of events involved here, ans that Arbery was "hunted down",
he was unlawfully detained by people engaging in violent crimes and was killed after he defended himself against the violent criminals
i never said he was "hunted down"
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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are you arguing the McMichals didn't commit violent crimes?
I'm arguing , per your scenario where Arbery committed burglary and they were aware, the state of Georgia grants them arrest powers, and under that scenario their violence wouldn't be criminal
That's why I also argue the law is violence waiting to happen
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:48 am to Turbeauxdog
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per your scenario where Arbery committed burglary and they were aware,
but they didn't immediately possess this knowledge
as i said earlier, even if you want to interpret secondary knowledge as "immediate", they had no secondary evidence of his intent
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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He initiated violence by committing crimes,
this is wrong. in the worst interpretation of his behavior,
When a criminal commits a crime, he is initiating the use of force, or violence. This is the basis of functional society. Surely a man of such logical abilities as yourself can see how the loop is closed with violence.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 10:49 am
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:50 am to ChuckO1975
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When a criminal commits a crime, he is initiating the use of force, or violence.
Wat
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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but they didn't immediately possess this knowledge
as i said earlier, even if you want to interpret secondary knowledge as "immediate", they had no secondary evidence of his intent
So the question would be, could they reasonably believe so
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:53 am to AggieHank86
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One need not “defend Arbery” in order to condduct an objective analysis of the elements of the crimes at issue. Most everyone indicting Clan McMichael has acknowledged that Arbery was probably a little punk and petty thief.
This. Arbery May have been a POS, but this went sideways when a father and son took matters in their own hands (albeit in the form of citizens arrest). I don’t know their motivation (a sense of community? racism? both?), but they seemed to have attempted to do something that they were untrained for and it turned disastrous.
My take...no matter your intentions:
Use your phone and call the police.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:In the past, I have seen Chuck make a number of posts indicative of both logic and reasonable intelligence.
SlowFlowPro
I think he is LARPing in this thread.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:53 am to ChuckO1975
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When a criminal commits a crime, he is initiating the use of force, or violence.
no he's not
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:54 am to AggieHank86
i think he's just emotionally invested, but i've been wrong before
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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no he's not
For such a learned man, so many basic concepts elude you.
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