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re: AG threatens 8 New Orleans leaders with removal from office in court clerk battle

Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

You started this thread complained that the AG had "threatened" local officials for appointing an interim clerk and calling for an election to replace Chelsea Napoleon in an office that was created by state law, not city ordinance, which raises some obvious questions:


To be fair, I copy and pasted the headline from the source linked in the OP.

quote:

1) Do you believe the New Orleans City Council and Mayor have the authority to do replace Chelsea Napoleon with an interim clerk and call a special election to replace her during her current term of office?
this isn’t a question of “belief.”

I would like to see the state sponsor another election for the consolidated office.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:43 pm to
Still refuse to simply respond?

Sad.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:45 pm to
Okay, let's try this another way you can't parse for semantics:

(1) Is it your position that the New Orleans City Council and Mayor have the authority to do replace Chelsea Napoleon with an interim clerk and call a special election to replace her during her current term of office?

(2) If so, can you explain?

(3) If not, why are you surprised that the AG called them out for exceeding their authority and usurping state authority?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:50 pm to
I understand the AG’s legal argument regarding state authority over the office. My objection is primarily directed at the legislature restructuring the office immediately after the election occurred. I view the city’s attempted response as a reaction to that disruption, not the origin of it.

ETA If it’s any consolation, I have no doubt you’d school me in a court of law.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 3:56 pm
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:58 pm to
The constitution gives the state the, power, that’s why it’s plenary. They didn’t teach that in GED school, I see.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38463 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

ETA If it’s any consolation, I have no doubt you’d school me in a court of law.


Wouldn’t take much to school someone who still believes Trayvon martin was killed by police and Sandra bland was murdered by jail workers.

Ready to admit you were wrong or will you continue to ignore the question?
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
905 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

I am having a conversation. You just refuse to respond to any of my points under the guise that you want legal citations.


No, jackknob, I asked if your position was based on opinion or law. You refused to back it up. I don't need citations, I don't need a goddamn motion, a brief, or a binding resolution. I just want to know if your statement has the weight of a legal position behind it. But you come onto a message board *wink*wink*, where the entire premise is to DISCUSS matters, and you pull the "well, I said it, but I ain't backing it up" bullsh*t. If you consider discussing legal matters on TD 'work', maybe you need to find another way to pass your time.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

I understand the AG’s legal argument regarding state authority over the office. My objection is primarily directed at the legislature restructuring the office immediately after the election occurred. I view the city’s attempted response as a reaction to that disruption, not the origin of it.


As I said before, I understand your intense response to what the legislature did and your emotional investment in this issue; no condescension intended- as I said before, reasonable people can disagree with the wisdom (and optics) of what the legislature did.

But here's what I do have a problem with: your core complaint was that the state created a new position and appointed Chelsea Napoleon to fill it.

But you don't have a problem with the fact that the New Orleans City council appointed an "interim clerk" and called a special election to replace Chelsea Napoleon in the office she was duly elected to and as expanded by the legislature (under authority you admit they have)?

If you have a problem when the state legislature supposedly "appointed" a Clerk, why are you okay with the City Council actually appointing a clerk?
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8067 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

My objection is primarily directed at the legislature restructuring the office immediately after the election occurred.


Elections are in November, legislative sessions start in January/February.
Posted by Hale Lipari
Member since Jul 2025
154 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:33 pm to
dude - just stop the ignorance - Napoleon was elected as the civil district court clerk - the criminal district court clerk's office was abolished by the legislature (which it has every right to do) and the duties of abolished criminal court clerk's position were merged and assigned to the civil clerk - the courts were not combined and Napoleon was, in fact, elected
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:53 pm to
Louisiana Supreme Court blocks interim Orleans clerk from taking office

The move follows the attorney general's warning that officials could be removed from office if they recognize any clerk other than the state-authorized appointee.

The Louisiana Supreme Court says it plans to quickly decide the fate of a new state law that dissolved New Orleans’ dual court clerk system by merging the criminal and civil clerk offices into one, according to our partners at NOLA.com.

The court also ruled that the city cannot appoint an interim clerk to the combined office and must not interfere with the duties of current clerk Chelsey Napoleon.

The judicial review follows a political firestorm sparked by Act 15, which consolidated the Orleans Parish civil and criminal clerk offices into a single position.

WWL-TV
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61461 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

As I said before, I understand your intense response to what the legislature did and your emotional investment in this issue;


Why do you keep referencing my emotions? Which post of mine do you find emotional?

quote:

But you don't have a problem with the fact that the New Orleans City council appointed an "interim clerk" and called a special election to replace Chelsea Napoleon in the office she was duly elected to and as expanded by the legislature (under authority you admit they have)?


My objection has never been “appointments can never occur under any circumstance.” My objection is that the legislature restructured an elected office immediately after voters selected someone to hold it, which fundamentally altered the meaning of the election after the fact.

The City Council’s actions occurred within the instability created by that legislative intervention, not in a vacuum.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61461 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

The Louisiana Supreme Court says it plans to quickly decide


Very reassuring.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:32 pm to
You're reassured by the fact that the Louisiana Supreme Court blocked the interim Orleans clerk from taking office instead of blocking Chelsea Napoleon from taking over the criminal clerk's duties?
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Why do you keep referencing my emotions? Which post of mine do you find emotional?


I give up. I've tried to engage you in good faith discussion, but go ahead and be offended if that's what you want.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61461 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:43 pm to
I’m reassured by the sentence I quoted, that the La Supreme Court plans to quickly decide the outcome of this mess that was brought to them ten days ago.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38463 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 7:28 pm to
No? Shame. I look forward to the day you finally grow up and learn to admit when you are wrong.
Posted by Hale Lipari
Member since Jul 2025
154 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 1:58 pm to
Louisiana Supreme Court blocks interim Orleans clerk from taking office

The move follows the attorney general's warning that officials could be removed from office if they recognize any clerk other than the state-authorized appointee.

The Louisiana Supreme Court says it plans to quickly decide the fate of a new state law that dissolved New Orleans’ dual court clerk system by merging the criminal and civil clerk offices into one, according to our partners at NOLA.com.

The court also ruled that the city cannot appoint an interim clerk to the combined office and must not interfere with the duties of current clerk Chelsey Napoleon.

The judicial review follows a political firestorm sparked by Act 15, which consolidated the Orleans Parish civil and criminal clerk offices into a single position.

The move effectively nullified a November election in which 68% of voters chose Calvin Duncan to serve as Criminal Court Clerk. Under the new law, Duncan’s position was abolished before he could take office, and control of the unified office was transferred to Civil Clerk Chelsey Napoleon.

ABOLISHED!!!
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2418 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 2:20 pm to
There is also a federal Constitution
Louisiana's constitution may give plenary power. but there is a limit to that power based on the U.S. Constitution. Due process and equal protection, as well as 1st Amendment cannot be violated in the exercise of the State's plenary power.

But they probably don't teach that at the retard schools you attended.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2072 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

There is also a federal Constitution Louisiana's constitution may give plenary power. but there is a limit to that power based on the U.S. Constitution. Due process and equal protection, as well as 1st Amendment cannot be violated in the exercise of the State's plenary power. But they probably don't teach that at the retard schools you attended.


None of that has anything to do with the issues involved. Maybe loosen the chin strap on your helmet, Bill-for-Short.
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