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re: AG threatens 8 New Orleans leaders with removal from office in court clerk battle
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:40 pm to Red Stick Rambler
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:40 pm to Red Stick Rambler
quote:
You started this thread complained that the AG had "threatened" local officials for appointing an interim clerk and calling for an election to replace Chelsea Napoleon in an office that was created by state law, not city ordinance, which raises some obvious questions:
To be fair, I copy and pasted the headline from the source linked in the OP.
quote:this isn’t a question of “belief.”
1) Do you believe the New Orleans City Council and Mayor have the authority to do replace Chelsea Napoleon with an interim clerk and call a special election to replace her during her current term of office?
I would like to see the state sponsor another election for the consolidated office.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:43 pm to 4cubbies
Still refuse to simply respond?
Sad.
Sad.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:45 pm to 4cubbies
Okay, let's try this another way you can't parse for semantics:
(1) Is it your position that the New Orleans City Council and Mayor have the authority to do replace Chelsea Napoleon with an interim clerk and call a special election to replace her during her current term of office?
(2) If so, can you explain?
(3) If not, why are you surprised that the AG called them out for exceeding their authority and usurping state authority?
(1) Is it your position that the New Orleans City Council and Mayor have the authority to do replace Chelsea Napoleon with an interim clerk and call a special election to replace her during her current term of office?
(2) If so, can you explain?
(3) If not, why are you surprised that the AG called them out for exceeding their authority and usurping state authority?
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:50 pm to Red Stick Rambler
I understand the AG’s legal argument regarding state authority over the office. My objection is primarily directed at the legislature restructuring the office immediately after the election occurred. I view the city’s attempted response as a reaction to that disruption, not the origin of it.
ETA If it’s any consolation, I have no doubt you’d school me in a court of law.
ETA If it’s any consolation, I have no doubt you’d school me in a court of law.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:58 pm to JimEverett
The constitution gives the state the, power, that’s why it’s plenary. They didn’t teach that in GED school, I see.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:01 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
ETA If it’s any consolation, I have no doubt you’d school me in a court of law.
Wouldn’t take much to school someone who still believes Trayvon martin was killed by police and Sandra bland was murdered by jail workers.
Ready to admit you were wrong or will you continue to ignore the question?
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:05 pm to JimEverett
quote:
I am having a conversation. You just refuse to respond to any of my points under the guise that you want legal citations.
No, jackknob, I asked if your position was based on opinion or law. You refused to back it up. I don't need citations, I don't need a goddamn motion, a brief, or a binding resolution. I just want to know if your statement has the weight of a legal position behind it. But you come onto a message board *wink*wink*, where the entire premise is to DISCUSS matters, and you pull the "well, I said it, but I ain't backing it up" bullsh*t. If you consider discussing legal matters on TD 'work', maybe you need to find another way to pass your time.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:08 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
I understand the AG’s legal argument regarding state authority over the office. My objection is primarily directed at the legislature restructuring the office immediately after the election occurred. I view the city’s attempted response as a reaction to that disruption, not the origin of it.
As I said before, I understand your intense response to what the legislature did and your emotional investment in this issue; no condescension intended- as I said before, reasonable people can disagree with the wisdom (and optics) of what the legislature did.
But here's what I do have a problem with: your core complaint was that the state created a new position and appointed Chelsea Napoleon to fill it.
But you don't have a problem with the fact that the New Orleans City council appointed an "interim clerk" and called a special election to replace Chelsea Napoleon in the office she was duly elected to and as expanded by the legislature (under authority you admit they have)?
If you have a problem when the state legislature supposedly "appointed" a Clerk, why are you okay with the City Council actually appointing a clerk?
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:18 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
My objection is primarily directed at the legislature restructuring the office immediately after the election occurred.
Elections are in November, legislative sessions start in January/February.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:33 pm to 4cubbies
dude - just stop the ignorance - Napoleon was elected as the civil district court clerk - the criminal district court clerk's office was abolished by the legislature (which it has every right to do) and the duties of abolished criminal court clerk's position were merged and assigned to the civil clerk - the courts were not combined and Napoleon was, in fact, elected
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:53 pm to Hale Lipari
Louisiana Supreme Court blocks interim Orleans clerk from taking office
The move follows the attorney general's warning that officials could be removed from office if they recognize any clerk other than the state-authorized appointee.
The Louisiana Supreme Court says it plans to quickly decide the fate of a new state law that dissolved New Orleans’ dual court clerk system by merging the criminal and civil clerk offices into one, according to our partners at NOLA.com.
The court also ruled that the city cannot appoint an interim clerk to the combined office and must not interfere with the duties of current clerk Chelsey Napoleon.
The judicial review follows a political firestorm sparked by Act 15, which consolidated the Orleans Parish civil and criminal clerk offices into a single position.
WWL-TV
The move follows the attorney general's warning that officials could be removed from office if they recognize any clerk other than the state-authorized appointee.
The Louisiana Supreme Court says it plans to quickly decide the fate of a new state law that dissolved New Orleans’ dual court clerk system by merging the criminal and civil clerk offices into one, according to our partners at NOLA.com.
The court also ruled that the city cannot appoint an interim clerk to the combined office and must not interfere with the duties of current clerk Chelsey Napoleon.
The judicial review follows a political firestorm sparked by Act 15, which consolidated the Orleans Parish civil and criminal clerk offices into a single position.
WWL-TV
Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:22 pm to Red Stick Rambler
quote:
As I said before, I understand your intense response to what the legislature did and your emotional investment in this issue;
Why do you keep referencing my emotions? Which post of mine do you find emotional?
quote:
But you don't have a problem with the fact that the New Orleans City council appointed an "interim clerk" and called a special election to replace Chelsea Napoleon in the office she was duly elected to and as expanded by the legislature (under authority you admit they have)?
My objection has never been “appointments can never occur under any circumstance.” My objection is that the legislature restructured an elected office immediately after voters selected someone to hold it, which fundamentally altered the meaning of the election after the fact.
The City Council’s actions occurred within the instability created by that legislative intervention, not in a vacuum.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:24 pm to Red Stick Rambler
quote:
The Louisiana Supreme Court says it plans to quickly decide
Very reassuring.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:32 pm to 4cubbies
You're reassured by the fact that the Louisiana Supreme Court blocked the interim Orleans clerk from taking office instead of blocking Chelsea Napoleon from taking over the criminal clerk's duties?
Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:33 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Why do you keep referencing my emotions? Which post of mine do you find emotional?
I give up. I've tried to engage you in good faith discussion, but go ahead and be offended if that's what you want.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:43 pm to Red Stick Rambler
I’m reassured by the sentence I quoted, that the La Supreme Court plans to quickly decide the outcome of this mess that was brought to them ten days ago.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 7:28 pm to 4cubbies
No? Shame. I look forward to the day you finally grow up and learn to admit when you are wrong.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 1:58 pm to Red Stick Rambler
Louisiana Supreme Court blocks interim Orleans clerk from taking office
The move follows the attorney general's warning that officials could be removed from office if they recognize any clerk other than the state-authorized appointee.
The Louisiana Supreme Court says it plans to quickly decide the fate of a new state law that dissolved New Orleans’ dual court clerk system by merging the criminal and civil clerk offices into one, according to our partners at NOLA.com.
The court also ruled that the city cannot appoint an interim clerk to the combined office and must not interfere with the duties of current clerk Chelsey Napoleon.
The judicial review follows a political firestorm sparked by Act 15, which consolidated the Orleans Parish civil and criminal clerk offices into a single position.
The move effectively nullified a November election in which 68% of voters chose Calvin Duncan to serve as Criminal Court Clerk. Under the new law, Duncan’s position was abolished before he could take office, and control of the unified office was transferred to Civil Clerk Chelsey Napoleon.
ABOLISHED!!!
The move follows the attorney general's warning that officials could be removed from office if they recognize any clerk other than the state-authorized appointee.
The Louisiana Supreme Court says it plans to quickly decide the fate of a new state law that dissolved New Orleans’ dual court clerk system by merging the criminal and civil clerk offices into one, according to our partners at NOLA.com.
The court also ruled that the city cannot appoint an interim clerk to the combined office and must not interfere with the duties of current clerk Chelsey Napoleon.
The judicial review follows a political firestorm sparked by Act 15, which consolidated the Orleans Parish civil and criminal clerk offices into a single position.
The move effectively nullified a November election in which 68% of voters chose Calvin Duncan to serve as Criminal Court Clerk. Under the new law, Duncan’s position was abolished before he could take office, and control of the unified office was transferred to Civil Clerk Chelsey Napoleon.
ABOLISHED!!!
Posted on 5/15/26 at 2:20 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
There is also a federal Constitution
Louisiana's constitution may give plenary power. but there is a limit to that power based on the U.S. Constitution. Due process and equal protection, as well as 1st Amendment cannot be violated in the exercise of the State's plenary power.
But they probably don't teach that at the retard schools you attended.
Louisiana's constitution may give plenary power. but there is a limit to that power based on the U.S. Constitution. Due process and equal protection, as well as 1st Amendment cannot be violated in the exercise of the State's plenary power.
But they probably don't teach that at the retard schools you attended.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 2:31 pm to JimEverett
quote:
There is also a federal Constitution Louisiana's constitution may give plenary power. but there is a limit to that power based on the U.S. Constitution. Due process and equal protection, as well as 1st Amendment cannot be violated in the exercise of the State's plenary power. But they probably don't teach that at the retard schools you attended.
None of that has anything to do with the issues involved. Maybe loosen the chin strap on your helmet, Bill-for-Short.
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