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re: "Affecting the outcome of a federal election" tells us everything we need to know

Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by PointsInCase
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:02 pm to
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Who ISN'T attempting to "affect the outcome of the election." Every journalist who publishes an opinion Every political commercial on radio or television Any person who puts a campaign sign on their lawn Any user who tweets something political They are ALL trying to "affect the outcome" and influence votes.
"Affecting the election" in this context means doing things barred by law to influence the outcome of an election. You can't just make up your own interpretation of something and argue it as truth.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:04 pm to
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"Affecting the election" in this context means doing things barred by law to influence the outcome of an election.


Are you implying that confidentiality agreements are against the law?
Posted by 007tiger
kansas city
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:06 pm to
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Sorry bud, but telling the truth and revealing facts isn't affecting the outcome in an illegal way.


So you're happy with Wikileaks publishing Hillary's emails.
Good to know.


If someone had leaked emails they had with Hillary then that's legal. Hacking them and timing their release to inflict damage is very illegal.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:07 pm to
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I kinda heard this argument but didn't get the full context. They're saying a campaign contribution turned the tide of the election? How so?


The Russian's $7400 dollar ad buy on Facebook swung Indiana RED for starters.

Trump's settlement with the two tramps was in negotiations before he ran for office but could have cost him the puritan vote in Utah.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:08 pm to
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MrLSU


MELT
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:09 pm to
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The Russian's $7400 dollar ad buy on Facebook swung Indiana RED for starters.


WOW and Hilary spent billions to lose
Posted by 007tiger
kansas city
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:09 pm to
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That constitutes a conspiracy. They could have buried Cohen with a conspiracy charge. They didnt bury Cohen because there was no conspiracy. Cohen fricked up all on his greedy arse own.


We know that AMI and Cohen (at Trump's direction) conspired to break the law. That has been asserted by the SDNY. They don't have to charge every single violation, remember Cohen did plea, so maybe this would have been added if they were forced to go to trial.
Posted by Smeg
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:09 pm to
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If someone had leaked emails they had with Hillary then that's legal. Hacking them and timing their release to inflict damage is very illegal


So are you, or are you not for "telling the truth and revealing facts"?
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:10 pm to
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The Russian's $7400 dollar ad buy on Facebook swung Indiana RED for starters.


Citation needed
Posted by 007tiger
kansas city
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:11 pm to
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So are you, or are you not for "telling the truth and revealing facts"?


I'm all for it, if its legal.
Posted by PointsInCase
Member since Dec 2009
698 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Are you implying that confidentiality agreements are against the law?
Nice straw man.

Confidentiality agreements are obviously very legal. In this case, the payment made under the terms of the confidentiality agreement was illegal because paying someone off to not say something bad about someone running for Preaident is illegal.

The only way to get caught doing this is to be stupid.
Posted by 007tiger
kansas city
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:12 pm to
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WOW and Hilary spent billions to lose


So have numerous campaigns. Don't see her implicated in 2 federal crimes.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14410 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:14 pm to
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I'm all for it, if its legal.


Who committed a crime in WikiLeaks publishing Hillary's emails?
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:15 pm to
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So have numerous campaigns. Don't see her implicated in 2 federal crimes.


They paid Fusion GPS 12 million dollars to employ foreign agents to "affect the election"

Sorry youre still being a giant pussy over her losing.
Posted by 007tiger
kansas city
Member since Dec 2007
65 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:16 pm to
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Confidentiality agreements are obviously very legal. In this case, the payment made under the terms of the confidentiality agreement was illegal because paying someone off to not say something bad about someone running for Preaident is illegal.


Adding to your point. The Trump org fraudulently mislabeled their repayment to cohen for Stormy's money. That has federal and state law implications.

It's a state felony if the fraud was in furtherance of another illegal scheme. This is terrible for Trump and the Trump Org. the Trump org will be indicted, I'd bet allot of money.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:18 pm to
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o keep this from getting out to avoid bad press that would negatively impact his eventual successful campaign.


You mean the 10 women the Dem’s paid to accuse him weren’t enough?
Posted by 007tiger
kansas city
Member since Dec 2007
65 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:18 pm to
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They paid Fusion GPS 12 million dollars to employ foreign agents to "affect the election"

Sorry youre still being a giant pussy over her losing.


Indictments or it didn't happen.
Posted by 007tiger
kansas city
Member since Dec 2007
65 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:20 pm to
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You mean the 10 women the Dem’s paid to accuse him weren’t enough?


So you got proof that "Dems" paid these women?

Let's see your "proof"
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
52909 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:20 pm to
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Indictments or it didn't happen.



They're sealed right now, but you will see soon enough.....
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