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re: Admit it, this administration is a total shitshow

Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:02 pm to
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:02 pm to
This administration has been scrutinized 1,000 times more than any other. That’s why you see so much turn over. People are being fired for stuff Obama and his admin did for 8 years without consequence.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:03 pm to
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Other than that, nothing he's done has any permanency


Well there have been the significant changes to the judiciary makeup, which could arguably be the biggest (if overlooked) part of his legacy so far.

Problem is, he really doesn’t get credit for the judiciary changes as the GOP establishment set him up with the vacancies and made it a top priority to push the appointments through.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8637 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:04 pm to
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with a whole heaping of brand damage for good measure.


Only 2 years after W left office with a 27% approval rating (lowest in history), the republicans gained the most seats in a midterm election since the 1930s.

There is no evidence that "brand" damage" exists in American politics. Voter are fickle and have short memories.


This is a good bit different, and the R's got that advantage back as much because of Obama as they did anything they actually did.

Brand damage does exist in American politics. Look at the R's post-1929. They paid for that for a damn generation, at the least.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8637 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:06 pm to
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He won't address spending because he knows that truly taking a sword to the federal budget means a hard and direct impact on his primary constituency:

In his defense even if he wanted to cut spending there’s no way in hell thats happening with this joke of a Congress.


This Congress isn't any different than most, and I will hold Trump to the same standard as I hold every other President. It's the executive branch's job to wheel and deal, negotiate, give and take, and find common ground. That's what good Presidents do.

That statement sounds, frankly, almost identical to what I heard from liberals during the Obama years. "Congress isn't cooperating!" Tough shite. It's his job to make them cooperate.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 11:07 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74083 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:07 pm to
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Look at the R's post-1929. They paid for that for a damn generation, at the least.
Yea, but the great depression is a historical novelty and FDR was a political miracle. Also....WW2
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8637 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:10 pm to
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Look at the R's post-1929. They paid for that for a damn generation, at the least.
Yea, but the great depression is a historical novelty and FDR was a political miracle. Also....WW2


Dude, except for two brief periods with slim majorities, the R's didn't get the House back with any permanency until the damn 1990's. That is way more than FDR and WW2.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 11:11 pm
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15960 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:13 pm to
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This is the second post of yours I've seen in ten minutes where you can't write a complete sentence.


Says the guy who can't properly punctuate an appositional phrase, and doesn't know the proper usage of "where"....
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13545 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:13 pm to
I disagree. Congress has just as much power as the POTUS and both parties hate this President. I think it’s different than the Obama years because Obama was an ideologue who wanted nothing to do with an opposition Congress. Trump has actually offered some pragmatic solutions but it hasn’t worked out. I do agree with you that Trump has been a failure in negotiating with them and a very bad leader overall.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:13 pm to
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with someone like George W at the helm.


Just hold on, Trumps moving that way..
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108926 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:15 pm to
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Let’s get back to being the party of integrity with someone like George W at the helm.


The president of silence and do nothing? Hell NO!!!

The ruckus may not be pleasant but the results are just fine. Frick DC and all the corrupt do nothing bitches who are in it.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
15388 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:17 pm to
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The constant staff turnover is a joke.

the most unsettling part imo

I've stopped counting at this point
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74083 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:17 pm to
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except for two brief periods with slim majorities, the R's didn't get the House back with any permanency until the damn 1990's


Yet from 1930s to 1990s, there were plenty of periods where conservative policy was being passed by congress. 1980s and 1990s econ policy, for example.

Many of those dems were blue dog or conservatives from the south who kept on getting reelected due to incumbency.,

On the presidential level, republicans were back in power in the 50s.


Look at another example: watergate. republicans were winning in landslides only 4 years after nixon resigne.d
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
22068 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:17 pm to
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The broken campaign promises are alarming.


Thank your Congressmen for that.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8637 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:22 pm to
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I disagree. Congress has just as much power as the POTUS and both parties hate this President. I think it’s different than the Obama years because Obama was an ideologue who wanted nothing to do with an opposition Congress. Trump has actually offered some pragmatic solutions but it hasn’t worked out. I do agree with you that Trump has been a failure in negotiating with them and a very bad leader overall.


I mean, I have to see what some of these pragmatic solutions are, because everything I've seen has been anything but pragmatic or has been half-baked.

There is just no competency. With some exceptions (Mattis, McMaster - gone, Cohn - gone, Icahn - gone, maybe Tillerson - gone), he's hired a terribly incompetent staff, and he has his damn daughter and son-in-law as prominent faces of the administration. If that were a Democrat, every single person on this board would be, rightfully, screaming until Kingdom come about how incompetent and borderline illegal and nepotistic that shite is.

I've never voted for a Democrat in a federal race in my life and probably won't be any time soon, but I didn't vote for Trump and sure as shite won't be going forward. The party is a long, long way from where it was when Jack Kemp Republicans could proudly pull the lever.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:24 pm to
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Admit it, you are a total shitshow


FIFY, keep melting.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:24 pm to
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Look at the R's post-1929. They paid for that for a damn generation, at the least.
Yea, but the great depression is a historical novelty and FDR was a political miracle. Also....WW2


Do either of you think that a large bloc of voters vote on that info today?

FFS we are looking at limiting social media. FB and Twitter consume 75%+ of the retarded masses.

Most aren't voting on things that matter. They just want to walk into traffic while looking at their phone and sue the person that hit their dumb arse.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39155 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:25 pm to
We can agree that you're a fricking idiot.
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:27 pm to
I am a Trump supporter from the beginning but this is the result of running and winning without a support system and advisors in place. It’s going to be chaotic because there is no experience or exposure to dealing with or having connections to the people who run in those circles.

So you get Trump trying to mash things and people together, without compromising his message. It’s tough when there isn’t a pool of people to pull from with like minded ideas, specifically when many of those ideas are not thoroughly defined.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20700 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:27 pm to
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The party is a long, long way from where it was when Jack Kemp Republicans could proudly pull the lever.
Pretty inept in those days.

Better to be a shitshow that is accomplishing something than looking good but spineless.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32007 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:28 pm to
What broken campaign promises?

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