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re: Admit it, this administration is a total shitshow

Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:46 pm to
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:46 pm to
Melt.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:48 pm to
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Turnover isn’t bad. With this logic the firing of a position coach by the head coach, regardless of cause, would be a sign the the team as a whole is a joke.

I agree with you on the turnover, but what scares the Rand Paul wing of the party is Trump trying to curry favor with the neocons. With all the corruption at the FBI, DOJ and the issues we've seen with the FISA court that have directly impacted the Trump campaign and administration, you'd think he'd appoint an NSA director who wasn't a rabid neocon. You'd think if Trump was America first, you'd think he wouldn't appoint an NSA director who wanted us at war with half a dozen countries simultaneously.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:48 pm to
It was pretty obvious this was going to be the case during his campaign. You need a certain level of self-awareness that Trump lacks in spades to be a good president. He's also just not a competent administrator in any sense of the word - it's why I told all my lefty friends to put away their feinting couches after he won. The guy isn't good enough at this to really do damage to their ideals.

He's going to do permanent damage to the party that will take a generation to undo. It's what I've always feared most from his presidency: not what he has done and will do, but the considerable damage that progressive Democrats will do when they begin accruing then consolidating power (in '20) starting in November of this year.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:50 pm to
I'd rather Trump remove the pieces that inhibit the goals for which he was elected than to keep them on the job because they're buddies or he's worried about outside opinions. The same can be said for any administration, D or R.

If anything it makes me wonder how many appointees have stayed in their roles simply due to the fear of 'bad optics' or cronyism at play in past admins. You know with all of these egos and big-thinkers involved there most definitely have been some major cases of butting-heads in DC that were never fleshed out, it would only be natural.

Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:51 pm to
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. Let’s get back to being the party of integrity with someone like George W at the helm.
Do you find that you have to put effort into being that idiotic or does it come naturally. Probably the stupidest thing anyone has said all year. W was a pos lying, warmongering president. He was just a typical politician.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:51 pm to
Your paragraphs contradict eachother.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:51 pm to
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Your paragraphs contradict eachother.



They do not.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13545 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:52 pm to
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He's going to do permanent damage to the party that will take a generation to undo. It's what I've always feared most from his presidency: not what he has done and will do, but the considerable damage that progressive Democrats will do when they begin accruing then consolidating power (in '20) starting in November of this year.

I’m right there with you. The writing is on the wall and it doesn’t look good at all.

Our only hope is the FISA stuff. If that doesn’t happen we are gonna have a full blown progressive government in 2020.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:52 pm to
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The guy isn't good enough at this to really do damage to their ideals.

Yet he has arguably enacted more conservative policy changes than any president in modern history, at least according to the heritage foundation, which is no fan of his.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:53 pm to
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someone like George W
frick you schill
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14221 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:53 pm to
As far as I can tell hes been killing it. All while having the totaly bogus collusion skyscreamers on msm 24/7.

How many presidents would be getting anything done with this kind of sideshow going on. Yet he has accomplished a great deal.

Oh yea, and hes got a porn star and playmate clamoring to tell the world about the fact they spread em for whats supposed to be hitler.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13545 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:54 pm to
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Yet he has arguably enacted more conservative policy changes than any president in modern history, at least according to the heritage foundation, which is no fan of his.

Aren’t you against this?
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:55 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 2:14 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42004 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:56 pm to
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He's going to do permanent damage to the party that will take a generation to undo

It needs destroying. The Republican Party's biggest fear is an actual conservative. It's why the party hated Ron Paul. It's why the neoconservatives ran out the Robert Taft Republicans and the paleocons like Pat Buchanan years ago. Trump at least has shown the degree to which the two-party system is an illusion and that Republicans are nothing more than controlled opposition.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8637 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:57 pm to
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quote:
The guy isn't good enough at this to really do damage to their ideals.
Yet he has arguably enacted more conservative policy changes than any president in modern history, at least according to the heritage foundation, which is no fan of his.


He's gotten a tax cut through without even attempting to address spending. He won't address spending because he knows that truly taking a sword to the federal budget means a hard and direct impact on his primary constituency: older white people. Other than that, nothing he's done has any permanency. It's the Obama executive model on steroids with a whole heaping of brand damage for good measure.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:59 pm to
Shut the frick up.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:00 pm to
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Let’s get back to being the party of integrity with someone like George W at the helm.


You can't be serious

This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 11:02 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74080 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:00 pm to
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with a whole heaping of brand damage for good measure.


Only 2 years after W left office with a 27% approval rating (lowest in history), the republicans gained the most seats in a midterm election since the 1930s.

There is no evidence that "brand" damage" exists in American politics. Voter are fickle and have short memories.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8637 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:01 pm to
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quote:
He's going to do permanent damage to the party that will take a generation to undo

It needs destroying. The Republican Party's biggest fear is an actual conservative. It's why the party hated Ron Paul. It's why the neoconservatives ran out the Robert Taft Republicans and the paleocons like Pat Buchanan years ago. Trump at least has shown the degree to which the two-party system is an illusion and that Republicans are nothing more than controlled opposition.


A lesson the Democrats are coming to grips with (and seem to be having a tenuous peace with, at least, given post-16 results and candidates) is that having a big tent is a damn good thing. You need your moderates, your paleos, your neocons, and everything else to get legislation through Congress. Otherwise, I will never get on board with ideological purity.

Dems got crushed because they imposed ideological purity tests for things like abortion, and they paid for it. Frick that non-sense.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13545 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:01 pm to
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He won't address spending because he knows that truly taking a sword to the federal budget means a hard and direct impact on his primary constituency:

In his defense even if he wanted to cut spending there’s no way in hell thats happening with this joke of a Congress.
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