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Across the country, people in Red and Blue states are waking up to learn about their state

Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:42 pm
That their states have been free riding the rest of us.

Thanks for finally paying your fair share, New York, California, New Jersey, Utah, Washington, etc etc etc.



It's great in a number of ways. First off, your constant blabbering and wailing about how we should raise taxes (in the case of democrats) to pay for more programs has been answered with what you said was your deepest desire: More taxes. In this case, it's not the federal government charging you more, just no longer allowing your state governments to cover up their own high tax-and-spend programs. Now you get to experience what you claimed to always want.

If nothing else, the new tax law is exposing your own hypocracy in about the most ironic and poetic way possible. In addition, people like me who already live in a low tax state that has been managing it's finances without the benefit of free-riding have encountered nice gains in our own returns. My own return, thanks to my paying less than 10k in property tax and having 2 kids ($2,000 credit went to $4,000) increased by around 30%. I didn't even have to itemize this time.

It has truly been a pleasure to read all of the melts (specifically out of NY) about how the tax law has caused a 2B revenue drop in state funds because all the rich people are leaving the state. The fact that AOC thinks that increasing taxes further in her own state (and the country) will not have the same effect is amusing. Should that happen, I'm pretty sure you'll see the Toronto Blue Jays suddenly become the best team in MLB for no reason that the WaPo or NYT will be able to fathom. You might even see Mexico get a baseball team to compete with them.

Thanks again!
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
21487 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:44 pm to
That was beautiful, man.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58812 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:44 pm to
How have we been free riding the rest of you?
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6455 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:46 pm to
And somehow it is still Trump's fault their states have horrid and punative tax laws.
Posted by mb_
Member since Dec 2018
748 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:48 pm to
Are all states equal? Why not have a flat rate for all states if the federal level gets to determine that, especially with some states with zero income tax

Also, I am curious, how do you feel about the wayfair/SD sales tax legislation?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118853 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:49 pm to


The states don't start getting purple until Wisconsin.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

That was beautiful, man.

Exactly
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33659 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

How have we been free riding the rest of you?

seriously?
do you not math?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58812 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

seriously?
do you not math?


Yes, seriously. Yes, I do math.

Look, I know what you (and the OP) are getting at. I just think it's a trite point to be making in respect of extremely convoluted federal tax code.

But I don't really expect detailed analytical thoughts on Political Talk either, so enjoy.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67977 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:07 pm to
I would rather go to the FairTax and eliminate all of this gamesmanship.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3286 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

I would rather go to the FairTax and eliminate all of this gamesmanship.


Yes, but this was a necessary first step.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:20 pm to
Goddamn masterpiece
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58812 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

My own return, thanks to my paying less than 10k in property tax and having 2 kids ($2,000 credit went to $4,000) increased by around 30%. I didn't even have to itemize this time.


So, you're being subsidized.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27375 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:37 pm to
Libs... let’s raise taxes
Pubs - be careful what you ask for
Libs & MSM - Pocketing less money sucks after all.

Those that aren’t retards - Duh!


Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19710 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

New York, California, New Jersey, Utah, Washington, etc etc etc. 

Washington state has no state income tax, so people in Washington have never been able to deduct state income tax from their federal taxes
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58812 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Washington state has no state income tax, so people in Washington have never been able to deduct state income tax from their federal taxes


And they're pretty low on the posted property tax chart that was posted. But that shouldn't stop cokebottleag from his publicly displayed moral preening about people being subsidized (while he simultaneously brags about being subsidized).
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2755 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:54 pm to
This hurts successful Louisianians but I’m ok paying more to watch the Dems squirm. Kind of like an amusement cost
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28126 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Yes, seriously. Yes, I do math.

Look, I know what you (and the OP) are getting at. I just think it's a trite point to be making in respect of extremely convoluted federal tax code.

But I don't really expect detailed analytical thoughts on Political Talk either, so enjoy.






Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28126 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:23 pm to
Also this is gonna hopefully turn some state legislatures a shade more red, or less blue. I recently conversed with some upstanding citizens in CT bitching about the people in the north and central parts of the state free-riding the taxpayers in the south. Hopefully this gets enough people angry enough to go vote some clowns out and even vote red upticket in 2020.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 4:24 pm
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