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re: ACLU is suing Trump. What "civil liberties" does a wall violate?

Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:29 pm to
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Your quoted text reads that the government owns that land now.

No shite? That's the whole point
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:29 pm to
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But, I don't like circumventing congress, either


Emergency Act 1976

Congress has the ability to override a Declared Emergency.

1) Simple Majority Vote if the President Signs
2) Veto poof Majority


Congress passed that law themselves and Ford signed it.

Therefore Trump isn't going around Congress because they can nullify the Emergency Declaration if they so choose.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:32 pm to
Name the last national emergency declared that happened because congress gave the president the Heisman

We'll wait..
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:32 pm to
You sure it’s the American Civil Liberties Union suing him? Seems like it would be the Mexican Civil Liberties Union.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21857 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:45 pm to
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Name the last national emergency declared that happened because congress gave the president the Heisman We'll wait..


As per usual...

You make no sense!
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:47 pm to
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As per usual...

You make no sense!

AKA I can't answer you
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39415 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:50 pm to
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Name the last national emergency declared that happened because congress gave the president the Heisman

We'll wait..


Direct us to the rule that prohibits a cic from exhausting all legislative options to fix a national crisis before declaring a state of emergency.

We’ll wait...
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21857 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:54 pm to
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]Name the last national emergency declared that happened because congress gave the president the Heisman We'll wait.. [/b]


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quote:As per usual... You make no sense!


quote:

AKA I can't answer you


No!

Please let us all know WTF you meant by the bolded quote!

It makes less sense than asking...

If you are walking through the woods with a canoe in your back pocket, how many pancakes does it take to fill up a doghouse?
Because I could at least guess a number!
This post was edited on 2/16/19 at 8:44 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:56 pm to
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fix a national crisis


Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39415 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:04 pm to
Wait... a half million illegals apprehended with untold thousands more crossing annually isn’t a crisis? A shadow population the size of Belgium living among at the cost of hurricane Katrina every single year isn’t a crisis?

Drug cartels, human trafficking, Gang violence, and Narco terrorism isn’t a crisis? Did you laugh when Obama declared that a national emergency? I didn’t.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21857 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:07 pm to
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fix a national crisis


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If you don't think 500k+ people crossing the border illegally every year isn't a national crisis than there is really no hope for you!
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:09 pm to
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Name the last national emergency declared that happened because congress gave the president the Heisman We'll wait.. [/b]


quote:
quote:As per usual... You make no sense!


quote:
AKA I can't answer you


No!

Please let us all know WTF you meant by the bolded quote!

It makes less sense as asking...

If you are walking through the woods with a canoe in your back pocket, how many pancakes does it take to fill up a doghouse?
Because I could at least guess a number!

Cringey
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260109 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:09 pm to
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If you don't think 500k+ people crossing the border illegally every year isn't a national crisis t


Most get here by visa, and overstay.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39415 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:17 pm to
No dude. They are snagging 50k at the southern border monthly.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21857 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:22 pm to
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If you don't think 500k+ people crossing the border illegally every year isn't a national crisis then there is no hope for you!


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Most get here by visa, and overstay.


That is correct as far as it goes.

We allow over 1 million legal immigrants a year. Most of these are self sustaining people who can afford to come and who are higher skilled people.

It is propaganda to group those who came here legally and overstayed their visas with those who came here illegally

The 500k illegals are typically low skilled peoples who are more of a drain on our finances than benefit.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:22 pm to
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Name the last national emergency declared that happened because congress gave the president the Heisman


Such an insanely stupid argument.

It can be reversed easily to point out that others just said "frick congress" and did it without even trying them first.

And it ain't like most of the prior ones were somehow SUUUUUPER pressing.

Sheesh you morons are like a bunch of fricking mindless parrots.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:27 pm to
Poor Rob, it must be tough to keep changing your principles on the whims of a demagogue
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Poor Rob, it must be tough to keep changing your principles on the whims of a demagogue
I already said I don't really like the fact congress even created the authority.

But none of you fricks have even a slight leg to stand on regarding Presidents going around congress. You just look foolish.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260109 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:30 pm to
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It is propaganda to group those who came here legally and overstayed their visas


These are classified as illegals as much as the guy that swims the Rio Grande. There's no difference.

The wall is far more symbolic (and expensive) than practical.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:50 pm to
PRIVATE PROPERTY

holy hell you trumpkins are commie like when it comes to private property
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