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re: According to the Washington Post, 14 unarmed black men were killed by police in 2019.

Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:59 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:59 pm to
You understand it's not just about the killing of back men but also the unjustified hararrasment of black men? No, you probably don't understand.
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:00 am to
Meanwhile in Southside Chicago.... 14 die every weekend by gunshot wounds.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:02 am to
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You understand it's not just about the killing of back men but also the unjustified hararrasment of black men?


So crime stats are fiction? Like they are fabricating crimes committed by blacks and ignoring ones committed by whites?
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:02 am to
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how many unarmed white men were killed by police in 2019?


The answer would shock many 'enlightened' beings.
This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 12:04 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:04 am to
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You understand it's not just about the killing of back men but also the unjustified hararrasment of black men? No, you probably don't understand.

I'm a white guy, and I've been pulled over for, "Driving while suspicious" more times than you would believe.

All of the stops resulted in one ticket (I didn't have my current insurance card) and no shootings.
This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 12:07 am
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:08 am to
Like when you get pulled over and the cop asks why you are in the neighborhood? Happens to the best of us.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:09 am to
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And I would argue that 14 is exactly 14 too many unarmed people shot by police in a year.


Of the thousands of annual interactions between black men and police every year, a tiny fraction of a percent end up with a dead person. Yes maybe the number should be zero (simply being unarmed doesn’t tell the whole story) but get real. That’s an impossible standard.
In no other sphere is perfection the only acceptable outcome. Planes crash but we still fly. Teachers frick their students but we still have schools.

The nationwide tantrum being thrown right now is all out of proportion to the problem. And you know it.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:10 am to
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It isn’t specifically the killing of unarmed black people that is the issue. And I would argue that 14 is exactly 14 too many unarmed people shot by police in a year. I honestly don’t understand how anyone doesn’t see this as a problem; the cops shouldn’t be shooting unarmed people at all. Race is a total non-issue there. 
But there is no way you can deny the video evidence of police abusing power all over the place. The amount of money that goes to the police vs education and health is not designed to help the community. 



The vast majority of these are repeat offenders who were involved in criminal acts at the time of their unfortunate deaths.

Sorry if I dont immediately take to the streets.

Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:14 am to
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So crime stats are fiction?


Many middle class law abiding black men get harrased by police.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:15 am to
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Many middle class law abiding black men get harrased by police.


So do many middle class law abiding white men.

They just dont look at it thru the lens of perceived racism.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:15 am to
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Like when you get pulled over and the cop asks why you are in the neighborhood? Happens to the best of us.


When I was younger it happened to me in my own neighborhood.

I lived in Livingston Parish at the time and had all my teeth. Understood the issue.
This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 12:16 am
Posted by TigersSEC2010
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:24 am to
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This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 1:52 am
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:25 am to
It really sucks for the regular law abiding black dude, but if black men as a group didn’t commit such an inordinate percentage of crime, black men wouldn’t be held to a higher level of suspicion. Just the way it is.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 12:29 am to
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So do many middle class law abiding white men.


No they don't. I have never been harrased by the police. But I have witnessed several black friends be harrased while I was told to keep walking.
Posted by Monkeyboy
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 2:36 am to
I'm as white as can be and I've been harassed by the police many times. And I'm a total nerd that never got sent to the office kindergarten through 12th grade, so it's not like I'm a person that doesn't follow the rules.

Also Harvard did a study that showed that African Americans aren't targeted by the police anymore than any other race, and that white people are actually targeted more. The study also showed that it's rare that lethal force is used on African Americans, and that it's more commonly used on white people than black.
Posted by JYD
Pineville
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 3:54 am to
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WaPo revised the number from 9 to 14.


Then what did the number of whites (19) increase to?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:30 am to
Happened to me one time as a white kid in a black neighborhood. I was sightseeing in the ghetto to be totally honest. White cop pulled me over and asked what I was doing in that neighborhood. He assumed I was buying drugs, I believe. Because there was a lot of drug activity in the neighborhood.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:31 am to
I wouldn’t say I’ve been harassed by the police but they sure to mean mug the frick out of me.
Posted by Conner4real
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:32 am to
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Many middle class law abiding black men get harrased by police.


Let’s say this is true. The only members of the middle class that get harassed are the black ones. How far down the priority list of issues in the black community do you think this particular issue should fall? I’m not saying it should be completely ignored, but Is this the issue that they should be destroying, beating, stealing and killing over?
Posted by Ricardo
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 6:08 am to
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 8:06 pm
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