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re: According to Candace Owens the Coronavirus Death Statistics are Being Cooked

Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:23 pm to
Texas and Florida are cooking the numbers.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47589 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:24 pm to
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Texas and Florida are cooking the numbers.



Link?
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:45 pm to
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I agree. Why would they waste tests on people who have passed?





Federal funding. The cold hard truth is if your local, state or federal government can get money from you they will.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:48 pm to
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Has this stuff just not hit y’all’s neighborhoods yet? Is that the deal?


Cut that crap out! We can care about and mourn the deceased while at the same time holding local, state and federal governments and their instrumentalities to ethical and professional standards.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:06 pm to
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Asymptomatic covid patients can have their lungs whited out on scans.

Yeah...not true.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:08 pm to
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Just to clear it up for anyone who might be taken in by Ms. Owens ridiculous observations.

You sir (?) are ridiculous.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27878 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:38 pm to
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Yeah, that’s legit.

You can disappear from this thread now
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Hospice resident who set off coronavirus concerns at Grafton care center tested positive after death. - Milwaukee Journal

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The center, which is located in Kirkland, Washington, on the outskirts of Seattle, is an acute care facility and typically sees three to seven deaths each month, he noted.- The Guardian

So 21 of the 35 reported are not being counted as part of their normal mortality rates
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A resident living in the independent section, however, was moved to the hospice unit without staff realizing they were positive for COVID-19. - WWL

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A 90-year-old man whose death last week at Lambeth House in New Orleans was deemed by the retirement home to be “completely unrelated” to the deadly coronavirus has since tested positive, per Dr. Alex Billioux, assistant state health secretary. - NOLA

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A 94-year-old passed after testing positive for corona virus while at Hospice Compassus at Ochsner Medical Center in Kenner. - WBRZ

These poeple were days or weeks from death, now theyre corona victims
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:41 pm to
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Candace Owens
is retarded and I’m sad for those of you that give her attention
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:47 pm to
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Cut that crap out! We can care about and mourn the deceased while at the same time holding local, state and federal governments and their instrumentalities to ethical and professional standards.


There’s a difference between asking for accurate death statistics and reporting and pretending that “this is all made up.” There’s a couple people ITT that are doing exactly that.
Posted by Stingy
TN
Member since Mar 2014
1907 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:49 pm to
She kinda has a really good point.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27878 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:03 pm to
If this is such a devastating global killer wouldnt the daily death rate be increasing? Even suicide victims are now included in the corona count, if having corona was noted in a suicide note.
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Daniela Trezzi -- a 34-year-old nurse who'd been treating patients at the San Gerardo Hospital in Monza in the very hard-hit region of Lombardy -- took her own life after spending a couple weeks at home sick. She had been working in the ICU of the hospital for days before Italy went on lockdown.

Trezzi was reportedly distraught over the notion she had spread the virus to other patients she worked on before she knew she had coronavirus herself.


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Man Misdiagnoses Himself With Coronavirus, Takes Own Life to Protect Neighbors - Newsweek

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A woman committed suicide after reportedly testing positive for coronavirus (COVID-19). The woman, a 35-year-old mother hanged herself to death after she tested positive for the coronavirus. A suicide note left behind notes a confession with reasons being that she feared for her children’s safety and health.

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A British teen petrified of being isolated with the coronavirus has died following a suicide attempt, according to a report.

Emily Owen, a 19-year-old waitress from King’s Lynn, about 100 miles north of London, died in a hospital Sunday after trying to take her own life due to fears of the “mental health impacts” of isolation amid the COVID-19 outbreak, the Sun reports.

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Coronavirus patient commits suicide by jumping off 7th floor of Safdarjung Hospital
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56205 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:12 pm to
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Yeah...not true.
very true multiple reports, Tiguar on this board also reported it. Nothing but low sats and bad scans
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:58 pm to
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If this is such a devastating global killer wouldnt the daily death rate be increasing?


You’ve got quite a start there. That’s going to put quite the dent in 50,000 deaths.

It is possible that both this virus response is overblown and that it’s still bad. We had a previously perfectly healthy co-worker admit to the hospital on Friday with a collapsed lung. The test came back positive the next day.

It’s not the Black Plague. It’s also not the flu. Those aren’t the only two options.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:01 pm to
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Federal disaster money is given pretty much freely on the front-end. It's on the back-end when the federal grant project is closing out that you have to justify that money you received. That takes years to get to the closeout phase.


It’s justified early on and obligated not that long after unless there are issues.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21687 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:05 pm to
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There’s a difference between asking for accurate death statistics and reporting and pretending that “this is all made up.”


There’s also a difference between asking for accurate information and and suggesting that the possibility of fudged data should be ignored until later.


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There’s little reason to toy with ideas like this now. Let it come out after.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:08 pm to
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There’s also a difference between asking for accurate information and and suggesting that the possibility of fudged data should be ignored until later.


I’m sympathetic to the idea. Especially if the system is really being gamed. But the tone has to be carefully balanced. Leading with “this is massive fraud” isn’t the best way to do it, especially with what we’re seeing in the data. The default shouldn’t be accusation but investigation. Until we have more investigation and data, there’s no use going off half-cocked. And to me, it appears that’s what she did.
Posted by Poncho and Lefty
Guntersville, AL
Member since Jul 2018
834 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:21 pm to
Hmmm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:07 am to
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It’s not the Black Plague. It’s also not the flu.


It sure as Hell isn't because nobody has ever spent million of dollars per death on those.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15654 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:16 am to
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Right now, they are giving everyone who dies a Covid-19 lab test.


I typically like Candace Owens, but this statement is false.

Wife had a patient who died on Friday while presenting symptoms, and the coroner said they were not going to test.

They might be cooking the numbers, but they're not testing every death in the country.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162206 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:23 am to
This is why people like her are not only worthless but dangerous.
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