re: According to arrest records, Floyd began saying "I can't breathe" before being pinned

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So if it's shown he didn't die of asphyxiation and that he was complaining about not breathing before being restrained, you still will somehow blame his death on the cops?

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ME’s report is already out. Homicide.

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But if Floyd was saying "I can't breathe" before he was ever pinned to the ground, does that not significantly change the current understanding of what was causing him difficulty to breathe, and subsequently succumbing to cardiac arrest?

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The only question for the court case is if Chauvin had the responsibility to remove his knee from Floyd's neck when Floyd became unresponsive.

Everything in this case went according to protocol when dealing with a suspect who is resisting arrest. Floyd is a very large, muscular man (go watch his porn video if you need proof...not that I did that...or uh...). If he was resisting arrest and flailing about refusing to get into the car and presenting a physical threat to officers, they had the right to restrain him using approved methods. According to what somebody linked (I don't have the link), the knee-to-neck restrain is an approved method of restraining a suspect resisting arrest.

Where the problem comes in is Chauvin's frickstick smile on his face as Floyd fell unconscious. Then Floyd is obviously out cold and the officers don't change their tactics. Shows depraved state of mind and brutal police force.

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I'd say 8 of 10 people being arrested unwillingly say they cant breathe.

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It's called "incarciritis" But still doesn't change anything in this case.

I’m certain. The ME for the county found it was a homicide with all the classic hallmarks of restraint asphyxia. He said it was a homicide.

Michael Baden said it was asphyxia.

Any questions?

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But if Floyd was saying "I can't breathe" before he was ever pinned to the ground, does that not significantly change the current understanding of what was causing him difficulty to breathe, and subsequently succumbing to cardiac arrest?

The arrest record spells it out - "While standing outside the car, Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe".

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dude had a knee on the mans neck for 9 damn minutes.

There is no defense

It will be beneficial to the officer's defense, especially if he CYA'd by calling paramedics to assist Floyd.

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I’m certain. The ME for the county found it was a homicide with all the classic hallmarks of restraint asphyxia. He said it was a homicide.

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ME report says cardiac arrest, not asphyxiation.

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So he has trouble breathing so the cop makes it MORE difficult for him to breathe? Not a good defense

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To be argumentative, since Floyd was saying this before being pinned, maybe the officer didn't pay heed to him saying once pinned.

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Yeah. This isn't even close to accurate. There are plenty of quotes of the ME report out there. You need to read them.

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It’s completely accurate. Thanks for the response.

Problem for Chauvin is, guy said he couldn't breathe not that he was dying. And I'm sure he was alive when he said it. Then to the ground, knee to neck for 9 minutes, then dead. And regardless whether there's any specification of cardiac arrest, that can be caused by suffocation per what I've read on the webnet.