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Abortion stats related to the 2016 Presidential election

Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:57 pm
I'll do some more of these (Pennsylvania and Michigan promise to be INSANE), but here's Wisconsin...

There were an estimated 8,500 legal abortions per year from 1973 through 1998 (the youngest year eligible to vote in the 2016 Presidential election) in the state of Wisconsin. That is 204,000 abortions, or nearly 9 times the difference between President Donald J. Trump's margin of victory over Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin in the 2016 Presidential election. Even with a conservative 40% turnout model among these 204,000 potential voters (and a conservative 65%:35% Clinton to Trump voting ratio), that was more than enough to make up the difference and flip Wisconsin blue.

- the ratio of Clinton to Trump voters would likely have been much higher than 65% to 35% because nearly 30% of the abortions were by African American women.

- the stats and how they apply to the 2016 Presidential election results in Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, and Florida are all equally decisive (especially in Michigan and Pennsylvania).



Wisconsin Final Results

President Donald J. Trump: 1,405,284
Loser Hillary Clinton: 1,382,536

Spread: Trump + 22,748 votes
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21594 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:59 pm to
Interesting, so if abortions were kept illegal Hillary would have won... I can see that.

Not that that, in and of itself, settles the abortion debate. It's not even really relevant, just an interesting side fact.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:00 pm to
Interesting how Margret Sanger's plan to genocide blacks through abortion is backfiring on the Democrat Party.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:00 pm to
My overall point is that Conservatives should secretly be okay with abortion. Liberals have gotten so grotesque and hateful that the fewer of them the better IMO. We don't have to admit it (you can even downvote this post if it makes you feel better), but it's a fact. We're at war with the regressives. This has been a very helpful front line in that war.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21594 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:02 pm to
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Interesting how Margret Sanger's plan to genocide blacks through abortion is backfiring on the Democrat Party.



The handwaving and smoke and mirrors at play when progressives both try and defend planned parenthood and not break rank from identity politics is pretty impressive.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:03 pm to
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My overall point is that Conservatives should secretly be okay with abortion


Why just "secretly"?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24587 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:04 pm to
This is the dumbest thing I’ve seen on this board in a while. Made me actually feel better about my life. That’s not even hyperbole:
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140479 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:04 pm to
Because no one should be OK with abortions. It's an act of barbarism.

Slicing and dicing a tiny human is never OK.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:04 pm to
Just teach your offspring not to have abortions. If your daughter gets pregnant out of wedlock or underage support her and the baby. The outcome is usually excellent.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:06 pm to
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Because no one should be OK with abortions


Even if it means Trump would've lost?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21594 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:06 pm to
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Just teach your offspring not to have abortions. If your daughter gets pregnant out of wedlock or underage support her and the baby. The outcome is usually excellent.


When your moral code matches up more with progressive values you are going to "outbreed" more conservative families. Abortion seems to be the only thing holding the dam back.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:09 pm to
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When your moral code matches up more with progressive values you are going to "outbreed" more conservative families. Abortion seems to be the only thing holding the dam back.


The way abortions are doled out demographically it does seem that way. It's an interesting hypothesis. I'd like to see the hypothesis proved out across the nation instead of just one state.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
81774 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:10 pm to
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Slicing and dicing a tiny human is never OK.



What about vacuuming their little left-wing brains out?
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Nolauga
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Member since May 2017
53 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Slicing and dicing a tiny human is never OK.


I agree and that’s why people take the pill. Plus it’s hard to find someone good with knife nowadays, everyone wants to use a damn gun.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21594 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:13 pm to
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The way abortions are doled out demographically it does seem that way. It's an interesting hypothesis. I'd like to see the hypothesis proved out across the nation instead of just one state.


Considering how close most swing states were, it'd be much the same. Having abortions illegal would mean a Hillary victory. I wonder what it would do to past elections?
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63026 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:14 pm to
Half of those aborted babies probably wouldn't have been eligible to vote in 2016 for an assortment of reasons, so I'd adjust the turnout to 20-25%.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21594 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:16 pm to
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Half of those aborted babies probably wouldn't have been eligible to vote in 2016 for an assortment of reasons, so I'd adjust the turnout to 20-25%.


The OP stopped in 1998, the cut off year to vote in the 2016 election.

You would still adjust for turnout rate, but you're still looking at ~100,000 people.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63026 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:17 pm to
I'm not talking about age eligibility.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140479 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:20 pm to
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Even if it means Trump would've lost?


Pointless hypothetical. Go to an abortion party. Enjoy yourself.

No, you would never do that? Why? It's OK.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41680 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:39 pm to
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My overall point is that Conservatives should secretly be okay with abortion.
I think it's gross to be in favor of mass genocide against the law of God just because it fits your political ideology.
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