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re: Abortion from a Republican woman's perspective...
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:26 pm to madamtiger
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:26 pm to madamtiger
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Sorry, but her college athletics that she worked her whole life for and the job she earned and wanted would be
Once again SHE WOULD NOT LOSE HER JOB.
Completely false pretense here.
Losing a college sports would be tough.
Doesn’t compare to losing an entire LIFE.
RBs tear their ACLs knocking them out for the year or longer. That doesn’t mean they can kill the defensive back.
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:26 pm to madamtiger
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Are you saying they don’t? Are they all,jumping up and down to be daddies? Completely wrong.
Of course not. This is why women must make better decisions.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:26 pm to madamtiger
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Sorry, but her college athletics that she worked her whole life for and the job she earned and wanted would be.
Please explain how she wouldn't get a job if she got pregnant.
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Her rapist gets her to house his baby!
No, she could put the child up for adoption.
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Jesus, I was hoping for more than “her life must be shite” if she doesn’t want to have a baby against her will and lose the life she built for herself.
I'm not sure what emotional state conjured up this horribly formed misunderstanding of what I actually said. Go back and try again.
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Can she at least have plan b in this no abortion scenario?
Yes, plan b isn't aborting a pregnancy.
This shite is taught in school, right?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:27 pm to Pandy Fackler
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It's your body. Take responsibility for it.
This is the bottom line. However when abortion is readily available why bother. Sadly abortion is no longer a shameful act. Instead of “my body my choice” it should be “my body my responsibility, including that unborn life I created. I would hope abortion continues to be a state issue that reflects the choices of its voting population, and I would love to see more support for making adoption a better option
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:27 pm to Jim Brockmire
Because I am questions one issue? Umm, okay
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:27 pm to imjustafatkid
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They are human beings from the moment of conception.
That is your opinion.
The vast majority of the US doesn't agree with you.
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There is no other reasonable or scientific claim to be made.
All you're doing is trying to make your framing look legitimate.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:27 pm to 14&Counting
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Can that woman kill the rapists other 6 year old kid on the soccer field? What are you babbling about?
You are ok with a woman murdering a child because it’s a rapists child just trying to figure out how far that extends for you.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:28 pm to tigersmanager
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it's murder
That's your lazy reply to a thoughtful thread starter? Lame, loser commentary.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:28 pm to madamtiger
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madamtiger
Thank you for your perspective.
Quite often, it’s the man who pressures the woman into having an abortion. While I find that morally reprehensible on the part of the father, free, unfettered abortion allows men to get out of their responsibility to the child more often than the woman getting out of hers.
I’d like to hear your perspective about the lack of men’s rights when it comes to “unwanted pregnancies.”
What’s your position on how state family courts profit off of custody battles via fees and child support?
What is your position on courts forcing men who are not biologically related to the child to continue paying for a child that is not theirs (it happens a lot)?
What is your position on courts not allowing men their own form of abortion by refusing to pay for a child they did not want even though the excess consensual?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:28 pm to Adam Banks
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You are ok with a woman murdering a child
It may not be a child at that point, though.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:29 pm to madamtiger
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision, including the one on which the defenders of Roe and Casey now chiefly rely—the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.”
Justice Samuel Alito (Majority)
You either believe in The Constitution or you don't. It's up to the states now per the Tenth Amendment.
Justice Samuel Alito (Majority)
You either believe in The Constitution or you don't. It's up to the states now per the Tenth Amendment.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You ok with murdering the deformed? This is the same bad rhetoric as the "coma" comment. quote:Is anyone put to sleep for surgery ok to be murdered? This is even worse
You clearly seem to define personhood based on limbs consciousness and pain sensation based on your post.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:29 pm to imjustafatkid
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That's an emotion based argument. There is no better safety net.
It’s transactional but I’m not going to bother with you any more. No one is going to have their minds changed here.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:30 pm to Azkiger
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Yes, plan b isn't aborting a pregnancy.
Women argue completely based on emotion. From the female emotion-based perspective, supporting the right of a private business not to offer plan b (or contraceptives at all), is somehow an attack on women everywhere and is framed as support for banning said drug completely.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It may not be a child at that point, though.
She might not be a human, either.
Who's to say?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:30 pm to Adam Banks
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You are ok with a woman murdering a child because it’s a rapists child just trying to figure out how far that extends for you.
Why do you feel entitled to force that woman that was raped and sexually assaulted to deal with that pregnancy/ What right do you have to force her? Why do you get to make that choice for her? It wasn't her choice she was criminally assaulted and the situation was forced upon her?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It may not be a child at that point, though.
Hence my post to you.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:31 pm to madamtiger
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I cannot imagine her being raped and impregnated and forced to make a baby with her rapist. She would lose her entire life right now. Its not merely an "inconvenience." Its life changing and can screw you up for life. She would lose her college life and definitely her job. For something she didn't deserve. I would love to see this board look at it from my daughter's point of view. Her life does matter. I don't know why that isn't talked about. The brushing off of rape and incest victims on here is a problem. I don't think I even saw a thread about the 29 year old who impregnated the 12 year old in Lake Charles, who gave birth. That poor child is a child herself.
There it is the emotional part where you make up a scenario that may or may not happen. So you would rather vote for the Harris/Walz ticket based on what? A scenario that probably happens frequently unfortunately in this country and nothing has changed or was changed during the Trump presidency other than the Supreme Court said this is now a state issue. Your FEELING and believing what MSM and democrats are what is wrong with this country. Harris has done nothing over the past four years and you and millions of women believe that ABORTION is your biggest issue against the Trump/Vance ticket? Wake up this country is in the toilet and look at the economy, overseas wars, illegal immigration and stop believing MSM. Btw my wife is pro choice also but knows MSM lies and makes up shite all the time. We need the real BS in this country to stop.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:31 pm to Warrior Court
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It’s transactional but I’m not going to bother with you any more. No one is going to have their minds changed here.
This is wise on your part, because you can't support your argument factually.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:31 pm to Septiger
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If women don’t want kids , use birth control.
It’s not that complicated.
And birth control can fail. Look, abortion is ugly and unpleasant ("yeah? think how the fetus feels about it!" I can hear somebody typing). But keeping abortion legal is pragmatic.
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