re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin

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And that's why we've discovered evidence of so much randomly happened life in the rest of the universe, right?

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We’re just now acquiring the ability to explore other worlds. WTF is your point?

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If slightly different creatures *couldn't* interbreed, then evolution would have a problem.

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evolution does have big problems, at the cellular level as well as with the origin of life. There is so much stuff in the cellar machinery that is chicken and egg kind of stuff. You can't create RNA without a specific bit of cellular kit, but, you can't build that kit without the RNA in the first place, etc etc etc. There is a ton of stuff inside the very basic machinery of life(which is still massively complicated) that had to evolve spontaneously at the same time in one cell, from nothing but random soup of amino acids, fully functioning or you don't have something that is alive, something that can metabolize or replicate. There is no evolutionary advantage to carrying around bits of stuff instead your cell that won't do anything functional until and unless you get some other completely preposterously advantageous mutation in the same once cell, or a million generations later. This is where evolutionary biology takes a massive cop out. It's basically at this point they say well we are here so we know it happened so, um, there. And they leave it at that. That's not science.

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We’re just now acquiring the ability to explore other worlds. WTF is your point?

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My point is that in the closest proximity to us, and forming at the EXACT same time as us, NO LIFE whatsoever has been detected on the moon or Mars, which is beyond odd, if life can be so random

And of course the BS will be conditions on said bodies weren't amenable to life, despite the fact that you told me it was ALL SO RANDOM

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random - without definite aim, purpose, method, or adherence to a prior arrangement; in a haphazard way

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Know the meaning of words before using them. If life was truly random (or haphazard), then even if it was small grublike creatures that didn't require oxygen, you will still find "life" very near to us, in a haphazard, oddly configured form. But there is none. Not even traces

Life like us, on an carbon based planet, doesn't remotely qualify as random. It qualifies as miraculously identical

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And that's why we've discovered evidence of so much randomly happened life in the rest of the universe, right?

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Um. The universe is large. Like, REALLY large. Like, incomprehensibly large. And, only a few hundred years ago, we could barely see the shapes of shite in our own solar system. We've only been able to actually experiment on stuff in our solar system, CHARITABLY speaking, for about 50 years.

Your post is like someone in 1300 acting like not knowing there was a N. America meant there was no N. America.

You’re using the word random as a synonym for ubiquitous. No wonder you’re confused.

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Evolution doesn't necessarily reward intelligence,

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Nor does it reward statistical intelligence

No matter what we evolved from, at some point we became male/female. That would had to have happened overnight. Which is evolutionarily impossible

Because the statistical likelihood that a male and a female evolved at the same exact time, in a geographical area close enough for them to find each other and mate. Within the 20 year window for that female to bear an offspring, is off the charts

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Micro evolution vs macro evolution needs to be pointed out.

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No, it doesn't.

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Micro evolution are small changes in a species to adapt to different conditions. Those have been observed, and nearly all intelligent design proponents would not argue against micro evolution. But macro evolution is positing something we haven't observed and that seems extreme... certain species developing totally new organs as a kind of mutation

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Where do you, personally, draw the line?

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(mutations are typically a bad thing)

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Typically, yes. Almost always? Yes. Every time? No.

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The problem is waved off by giving enough time

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Right, given enough time, there is no problem.

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our fossil records don't show evidence for those kinds of mutations.

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The fossil record contains overwhelming evidence of those kinds of mutations.

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My point is that in the closest proximity to us, and forming at the EXACT same time as us, NO LIFE whatsoever has been detected on the moon or Mars, which is beyond odd, if life can be so random

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It's not even slightly odd.

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And of course the BS will be conditions on said bodies weren't amenable to life, despite the fact that you told me it was ALL SO RANDOM

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Straw man defeated!!!

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Know the meaning of words before using them. If life was truly random (or haphazard), then even if it was small grublike creatures that didn't require oxygen, you will still find "life" very near to us, in a haphazard, oddly configured form. But there is none. Not even traces

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LOL. Even if life developing on a world had 1 in a Trillion probability, there would be no reason whatsoever to expect that meant it SHOULD have occurred more than once in the same Solar System under different conditions. Sheesh.

For you to consider it likely in a nearby place, the odds would be awfully damned common and NO ONE asserts that.

You beat the shite out of that strawman.

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Life like us, on an carbon based planet, doesn't remotely qualify as random. It qualifies as miraculously identical

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You don't think having a planet turn out like ours(before life) is the very definition of "random"?

You seem to think "random" equals "commonly occurring".

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No matter what we evolved from, at some point we became male/female. That would had to have happened overnight. Which is evolutionarily impossible

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Damn, dude, you need to take some courses about the evolution of sex differences. You are making conclusions based on limited information.

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No matter what we evolved from, at some point we became male/female. That would had to have happened overnight. Which is evolutionarily impossible

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Mother of God. This post should be marked with a mental health warning.