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Bass Tiger
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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In a way, intelligent design reaffirms Darwin's "survival of the fittest". If an individual is designed stupidly, it's not going to last very long on our planet.


If that's true one would expect the people who are susceptible to TDS to steadily decline in numbers over the next few decades.


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NC_Tigah
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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if these organism change this infinitesimal amount over tens of millions of years
Some do. Some don't.


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NC_Tigah
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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What is unclear, however, is the tremendous development in brain size from Australopithecus to the early Homo ancestors.
Indeed.
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{Evolution as a general pretext} is irrefutable. Not even debatable. Not close!

However, in specific application to the evolution of Homo Sapiens, there certainly are legitimate questions and scientific gaps.


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ShortyRob
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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In a way, intelligent design reaffirms Darwin's "survival of the fittest". If an individual is designed stupidly, it's not going to last very long on our planet.


I would just like to interject that "fittest" is often misinterpreted by the layman to mean "best". As if evolution has some end goal.

But fittest only means "works better than the alternative in that given time".

For example. If the world turned substantially colder, I suspect over time many animals without decent self-heating mechanisms or protection would die off and those that either had, or developed furry coats or other mechanisms would do great. But, if at some point after that, the world turned substantially warmer, the opposite would occur.

Neither of those adaptions would be "better" in some concrete sense. They just worked in that time frame. The same goes for millions of other evolutionary pressures in the environment.


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Korkstand
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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intelligent design
You don't even know what this means.


Was it not clear that my post was a joke?


Vecchio Cane
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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Phds in theology don't count


The scientists are listed in the link


Vecchio Cane
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So, these scientists don't agree with Darwin that blacks and women are inferior beings?


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Korkstand
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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Have always been fascinated by pictures of animals trapped in amber, or fossilized tree sap. Almost invariably, these are dated to tens of millions of years, and look almost exactly like their modern day descendants.


Looks like a scorpion to me.

Looks like a lizard.

Looks like a baby bird.

Looks like a bee.

Looks like a flea.

Looks like a spider.
Yes, many bugs and reptiles haven't changed much in a very, very long time. But I hope you aren't basing your view of that baby bird on the artist's rendering. The actual specimen had a jaw with teeth, rather than a beak. It had claws on its wings. It was a dinosaur with feathers.


Perfect Circle
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
Appreciate the heads up. I'll check it out.


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Uncle Stu
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Does anyone know what happened to this dude?

I'm guessing he went off to fight demons in another plane of existence and got stuck there


or......the nurses caught him off his meds again and cut off his internet access

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I miss his crazy arse threads.

#metoo


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WildManGoose
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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said biologist Douglas Axe, director of Biologic Institute
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The Biologic Institute conducts biological research with the aim of producing experimental evidence of intelligent design, funded by the Discovery Institute. It has offices in Redmond, Washington and laboratories in the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle, Washington.[1]




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DisplacedBuckeye
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Was it not clear that my post was a joke?




I mistook you for someone else.

My bad.


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DisplacedBuckeye
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I miss his crazy arse threads.


The intelligent design thread was GOAT.


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narddogg81
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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No one has ever seen one creature evolve into something else, nor will they


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I love it when people show animals exhibiting the plasticity built into their DNA (any good design fit a changeable world is adaptable) to prove evolution, and yet they end up with a slightly different colored version of the same thing that can still breed just fine with the original
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russellvillehog
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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Darwin's theory was wholly based on empirical observation and thus lacking important details. He of course had no knowledge of nucleic acids or genes and genomes, or RNA transcription to proteins. etc. Now we have full understanding of these things, and yet macroevolution is still perplexing. No one has ever seen one creature evolve into something else, nor will they.


I read a book one time that basically decided that during times of calm evolution simply doesnt happen, and during times of cataclysm, and the period after, evolution happens very rapidly to adjust the surviving life to the new world it lives in.


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TeLeFaWx
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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No way something could "mutate" or by chance just grow by its self into a human. No science has ever proven either of these are possible, much less show it has actually happened.


What do you mean? Mutations happen all the time.


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NC_Tigah
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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and yet they end up with a slightly different colored version of the same thing that can still breed just fine with the original
Like horses and mules, lions and tigers, or camels and llamas? That kind of thing?


Korkstand
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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I'm not saying flora and fauna doesn't adapt and change physically, but if these organism change this infinitesimal amount over tens of millions of years, how did we go from monkeys to humans in just 3 million years?
How did we go from wolves to chihuahuas in only a few thousand years? It's all about the selective pressures.
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Is evolution partial to higher order intelligence
Evolution is only "partial" to organisms that survive long enough to reproduce.
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do higher order animals evolve faster?
No, bacteria and viruses win that race easily by sheer numbers. But while you might look at two bacteria that are miles apart genetically and say they look the same, a dog might look at us and think "looks like an ape to me". And he'd be right.


Korkstand
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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I'm guessing he went off to fight demons in another plane of existence and got stuck there
I hope he makes it back one day to tell us the story.


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Korkstand
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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
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Like horses and mules, lions and tigers, or camels and llamas? That kind of thing?
Well clearly horses/mules, lions/tigers, and camels/llamas are of the same "kind".



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