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re: A reminder not to shoot a burglar if they are running away from your house

Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:24 pm to
Someone should account for the death of the thief but it shouldn’t be the homeowner. In the case of any death like this all of his accomplices, who were actively committing a crime and at the homeowner’s house, should be charged with first degree murder.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:24 pm to
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A reminder not to shoot a burglar if they are running away from your house
I actually asked a former EBR Parish District Attorney what the law is in Baton Rouge in a case like this.

I swear this is what he told me.

He said, "Shoot them, drag them into your house and then call 911 and report a home invasion."

I kept waiting for him to laugh like it was a joke but he never did...
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:25 pm to
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He hit the person while they were in his garage. No charges should have been filed.


More damning is not seeking medical attention.
Posted by Jimmyboy
Member since May 2025
2062 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:26 pm to
Yeah well now all a homeowner or business has to do is say that person stole from me…that justifies my shooting…
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:26 pm to
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is this something a rational person would do.
Seven on one. Very rational.
Seven perps in a completely different building than the homeowner.

This guy is facing charges because he was NOT defending himself. He was defending property.

He left his home, went into the yard, and discharged his firearm into a detached building through a solid (no window) door. Apparently, he had no idea as to who or what was on the other side of that door.

Ideologically, should a homeowner be able (legally) to do that in this situation, to protect his property? That is a reasonable question to discuss from a policy perspective. But in his state, that question has already BEEN discussed, and the answer selected by his elected representatives was "no."

That is why he is facing charges.
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 7:03 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Matthew Grinage, 21, as well as four juveniles have also been charged with breaking and entering for the attempted burglary of Knapton’s detached garage that led to the shooting, the prosecutor's office said.



Should also be responsible for a homicide.

Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Yeah well now all a homeowner or business has to do is say that person stole from me…that justifies my shooting…


You've expanded the field there with "business".

Letting that slide though... I sincerely doubt law abiding homeowners are going out on the prowl at 1am to find some disadvantaged youths to lure onto their property with the sole purpose of using them for target practice.

Can you give me one or two examples that would fit your claim but a homeowner would be in the wrong?

Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:31 pm to
Just bury the yute in the backyard
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:31 pm to
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The taking of belongings is the taking of your life's finite energy. Absolutely defensible in my book.
Then you should definitely find a state in which that is the law ... and move there.

Like it or not, in MOST states, leaving your home and then shooting someone in your detached garage when you cannot even see into the garage? You are going to be facing charges.

SHOULD you face charges? Convince your legislature.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:33 pm to
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He left his home,


His garage is no less his home than his kitchen.

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Apparently, he had no idea as to who or what was on the other side of that door.


Who is supposed to be IN his property, uninvited at 1am?

How was the homeowner to know this roving band of miscreants weren't going for his main residence next? A group of SEVEN adult sized, uninvited burglars on your property is a threat to more than just your property.

Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:33 pm to
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While they were in his garage he was not in immediate danger
there's just a door between me and my garage. If they are in my kitchen, am I in immediate danger in my bedroom? What's the difference?
Did you even bother to read the article?

It was DETACHED garage.
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 7:06 pm
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13442 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:33 pm to
Was the dead thief shot in the front or the back???

Front, no charges.

Back, need a trial and let a jury hear the case.

Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:34 pm to
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In the meantime, 21-year-old Matthew Grinage and four juveniles have each been charged with breaking and entering for the circumstances that preceded the shooting, McDonald said
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Why are they not charged with felony murder?

Vallid question.

If I were the prosecutor, they would be.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:36 pm to
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I actually asked a former EBR Parish District Attorney what the law is in Baton Rouge in a case like this. I swear this is what he told me. He said, "Shoot them, drag them into your house and then call 911 and report a home invasion."
Did he give this advice in the 1950s? If not, he is an idiot.

This will obviously be discovered during the investigation, and the days of it being swept under the rug expired decades ago.

In fact, it will make you look MUCH worse to the jury, when you do eventually face charges for the shooting.
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Jimmyboy
Member since May 2025
2062 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:37 pm to
I’m just saying that it opens a can of worms. Pajeet at his gas station says Dark guy just ran out with some stuff so I blasted him…come to find out there was no theft at all. Oh well sorry says pajeet…while secretly giggling racist remarks in his head
Posted by Megasaurus
Member since Dec 2017
1402 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:38 pm to
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the evidence demonstrates this defendant crossed the line by firing outside his home at fleeing persons


That could possibly be problematic at face value, depends on how it was explained. (7) burglars trying to break into house from garage...Very reasonable to shoot through a locked door if dealing with multiple assailants.. Either way, he should be good, the other burglars that fled with the deceased burglar will be on the hook..

Going to be a shite show for this man and his family because of a bunch of degenerates who refuse to buy thier own shite
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 6:39 pm
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:40 pm to
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(7) burglars trying to break into house from garage...Very reasonable to shoot through a locked door if dealing with multiple assailants.
For God's sake, people, read the article before posting your thoughts about a scenario that DID NOT happen.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:41 pm to
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Pajeet at his gas station says Dark guy just ran out with some stuff so I blasted him…come to find out there was no theft at all. Oh well sorry says pajeet…while secretly giggling racist remarks in his head


I don't think Pajeet, or Kwon, or BillyBob, or Jose are going to do that... business is about making money, making a living- not shooting at and running off customers.

Plus, again, my comments in this thread are applicable to the home. I don't necessarily think the same use of force applies to businesses, though I wouldn't mind if it, I don't think.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133683 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:42 pm to
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In fact, it will make you look MUCH worse to the jury,
If I ever shoot someone I'll keep your aggie legal advice in mind...
Posted by MasonTiger
Mason, Ohio
Member since Jan 2005
18515 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:42 pm to
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Prosecutor Karen…

Democrat too
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