re: A prayer to SATAN.

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It's a collection of books chosen by men to create a universal religion in the Roman Empire. That's why all your holidays are Pagan.

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Thats not historically correct. Christian and Pagan were at war with one another. Constantine, as a politician does, saw that the Christian faction were going to win so that's the side he picked and used Pagan holidays to help bring them over to Christianity.

Now the book has truth to it that is not even debatable. The words that Jesus taught and the meanings were all written about during the time that the people who lived during his time were still alive. So we know that is factual. I use the Bible to reinforce the teachings of Jesus. To say that we have God trapped in a book is basically trying to keep people from reading those words
You have twisted the meanings and words to propagate your agenda. You know exactly what you are doing and are frustrated that some of us know what you're doing.

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Thats not historically correct. Christian and Pagan were at war with one another. Constantine, as a politician does, saw that the Christian faction were going to win so that's the side he picked and used Pagan holidays to help bring them over to Christianity.

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You just described exactly what I said. A universal state religion is built through political compromise.

There were multiple sects of Christianity after Jesus, but it wasn't called Christianity it was just refereed to as "the way". Meaning the way to keep the commandments.

After Jesus, there were multiple sects of believers who were not called Christians; they were referred to as "The Way." Meaning, the way to actually keep the commandments. The Pauline version you hold today was chosen by Rome over the others because the true sects taught that you had to rigidly keep the commandments, which was hard. The Pauline "free gift" was easy to accept. Through it, even the rich ruler whom Jesus turned away could suddenly be "saved" without changing his life.

The original people who actually followed Jesus were rejected by both mainstream Judaism and the Pauline movement. They were scattered, labeled as heretics, and wiped out by the Roman system. And the book you cherish has deep pagan roots left in it. Do you even know what walking on water actually refers to?

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Now the book has truth to it that is not even debatable. The words that Jesus taught and the meanings were all written about during the time that the people who lived during his time were still alive. So we know that is factual. I use the Bible to reinforce the teachings of Jesus. To say that we have God trapped in a book is basically trying to keep people from reading those words
You have twisted the meanings and words to propagate your agenda. You know exactly what you are doing and are frustrated that some of us know what you're doing.

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Lots of books have truth in them, it doesn't make them the word of God. Just because a book has a single truth, or many truths in it, doesn't mean it's all true either.

As for your claims, I tell people they must do more, not less. I tell people they have to keep the commandments - you are the one who tells them they don't. You are the one selling a free gift, I tell people it's up to them.

You are the one telling people they don't have to keep the commandments. I tell the rich man the same thing as Jesus - you must keep the commandments. You tell the rich man he only needs to believe in a free gift of the blood sacrifice of the man who told him he wasn't good enough.

Because the only thing saved by the death of truth is the lie, and that is what you worship and that is what you think saves you. It also saved the pharisees, satan and has made this world for what it is for 2000 years now.

And the lie will live until the truth returns.

If you followed Jesus, then you wouldn't be arguing with me.

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You really should stop trying to debate FooManChoo. I've read his thoughts on Jesus Christ and he never waivers. He has literally cast a spotlight on your wrong doings and it's obviously frustrated you. You will never change his stance.

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I've told him multiple times he is incapable of ever receiving God. He is the one who chooses to argue.

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Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. The only way to the Father is through Him. Not through our own obedience.

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Jesus is what you worship, the idol.

The way, the truth, and the life is what I worship, the understanding and wisdom.

I've found the father.

You've found a book you have to blindly accept as the word of God to which you manipulate and take things out of context to create false narratives and to claim false things about me.

Because you are a Pharisee, and your guests are from the depths of hell.

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I have already received God. I have received Jesus, the expressed image of God and the Son of God. I have the Spirit within me.

You do not have God because you reject His Son.

I’m arguing because you are leading people down the path that leads to destruction. No one can be saved by the works of the law.

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You have replacements for God. That's why idol worship is a sin.

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I've told him multiple times he is incapable of ever receiving God. He is the one who chooses to argue.

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He actually has kept his posts to the word. I've read his post on religion for a long time. He has never waivered. Your ego doesn't allow you to consider his side. He has owned you in y'all's debate while you only continue with your twisted rhetoric.

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Jehovah’s Witness? Whatever you are who gives a shite, relax and watch some football

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I do not belong to any religion.

You are the one coming in this thread, so I'm not sure what you expect. Maybe you need to go watch football.

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Your quotation only confirmed my reference. I didn’t need to quote the whole chapter because the verse was not taken out of context.

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You accused me of cherry picking when I almost always quote the entire chapter to include context.

Jesus literally mentioned how the Pharisees replaced keeping the commandments with gifts and traditions of men.

That is also what you do with the blood sacrifice. Instead of keeping the commandments, you've replaced it with a gift. And it's even worse than anything the pharisees ever did.

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I’m the only one between the two of us who actually has the truth. I have Jesus, who is the Truth. You have only the lies of your father, Satan.

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You believe you are saved by the death of truth.

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This is the exact wording that I would expect Lucifer to use

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The first act of being a Christian is to commit a sin.

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You are the one coming in this thread, so I'm not sure what you expect. Maybe you need to go watch football.

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This is a pretty shitty thread, that’s a fair point, but it’s not bothering me. More worried about you guys. Arguing about religion on the internet is awful.