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re: A paradigm shift in the politics of public lands
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:40 am to Pbhog
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:40 am to Pbhog
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it’s crazy how much republicans cow down to corporations.
Please point out to where I "cowed down" to corporations?
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If you give these lands to the states no doubt they would end up as one big arse rock quarry or oil field.
So you know better than the citizens of Nevada what do with their land?
And interesting you just assume they'll sell all the land to corporations. Rather telling about how you view people.
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:45 am to Centinel
It’s not just the citizens of Nevada’s land.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:47 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Green space is a great use of government, but the overreach from libs is insane. For example, ANWR. There is a debate on the proper use of it, but our ability to safely and responsibly extract oil and gas shouldn’t be in question.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:49 am to Pbhog
Hard to beat the freedom of roaming the wild places of the American West with a firearm in your hands. Count me in for keeping our Public Lands public.
I don’t like that a state can charge me $1,000 for a non resident elk tag to hunt MY public land.
I don’t like that a state can charge me $1,000 for a non resident elk tag to hunt MY public land.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:50 am to Centinel
quote:And why should the taxpaying public all across the nation, and our citizens overseas, pay for all this land, for the "management" and the wages of the people who restrict access to the public of a lot of that land too?
So why should the federal government own the land, and not the states?
ETA: Why should the vast majority of the land in Nevada be owned by the federal government instead of...you know....the actual state of Nevada?
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:50 am to Pbhog
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You think we could put a dent in our multi- trillion dollar deficit but selling national parks?
I'll bet you've never stepped on BLM land in your life.
National Parks are but a dent in the national lands portfolio
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:52 am to bobdylan
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It’s not just the citizens of Nevada’s land.
Ya, it is. Like I said, I'm ok with setting aside National Park and Monuments. But the fact that the federal government owns the amount of land it does in Nevada is asinine. That land belongs to the citizens of Nevada.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:54 am to 257WBY
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I don’t like that a state can charge me $1,000 for a non resident elk tag to hunt MY public land.
Are you ok with the state you live in charging a large fee for non-residents to hunt on land in your state? Or should people from outside your state be allowed to hunt when and where they wish on lands in your state?
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:59 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
So much of that land is inhospitable desert, which means its worthless to farmers and ranchers. And not really worth much to anyone else unless it has oil or mineral deposits, in which case the government should just lease mineral rights out and collect royalties while maintaining ownership
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:05 am to Centinel
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Ya, it is. Like I said, I'm ok with setting aside National Park and Monuments. But the fact that the federal government owns the amount of land it does in Nevada is asinine. That land belongs to the citizens of Nevada.
Maybe/maybe not, are so saying it should remain public land or are you saying Nevadians should have the ability to purchase it? If it's the latter it might start out as belonging to the citizens of Nevada but it may not stay that way. I grew up in a rural county in the Flint Hills in Kansas. Today 95% of the private land in that county is owned by people who live out of state.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:06 am to Sidicous
Nail on the head right there!!!
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:11 am to 88Wildcat
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are so saying it should remain public land or are you saying Nevadians should have the ability to purchase it?
I'm saying it should be up to the people of Nevada. I highly doubt they'd sell it all to private entities. But, that should be their choice.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for public lands. I'd just rather have the decision of what is or is not public lands decided by the citizens who live in that state/locality instead of some bureaucrat in DC.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:15 am to Centinel
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If Nevada wants to sell their public lands, that's up to the citizens of Nevada. Neither you nor I should have any say in the matter.
I'd personally rather Louisiana not get handed over any Federal land. It would be nothing but strip malls in 5 years.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:20 am to windshieldman
Well you don't have much to worry about. Most of the land east of the Rockies are National Parks, National Monuments, etc. I'm not advocating those be turned over to the states.
I'm speaking more to the land out west that is just "BLM Land".
I'm speaking more to the land out west that is just "BLM Land".
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:21 am to Centinel
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. I highly doubt they'd sell it all to private entities.
I see you didn’t go look up to see what they did with their school trust land?
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 9:23 am
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:21 am to Centinel
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I'm speaking more to the land out west that is just "BLM Land".
I see what you're saying
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:25 am to bobdylan
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It’s owned by all people and the fed govt is the trustee.
Correct. That's why they are called "parks" and "public" lands. Something many folks don't get.
Aside from military installations, for the vast majority they are your's to use and enjoy.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:26 am to bobdylan
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I see you didn’t go look up to see what they did with their school trust land?
I see you don't understand the purpose behind the school trust land, and why Nevada had less initial acreage than other western states.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:31 am to Centinel
I am familiar with the purpose of school trust land - so you’re suggesting their only option was to sell it all?
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:32 am to TejasHorn
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Aside from military installations, for the vast majority they are your's to use and enjoy.
When the Feds own 85% of land within a State, we have a serious imbalance occurring.
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