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re: A Judge Has Ruled That Deporting Illegals is Unconstitutional. Lawyers, Explain the Logic

Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:22 pm to
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They did, and now you have 20 million new neighbors.

That was not illegal behavior and it didn't violate any laws.

Stupid? Yes

Illegal? No
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:22 pm to
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They did, and now you have 20 million new neighbors.


Exactly
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:22 pm to
Who cares, these judges can’t enforce it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:22 pm to
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Lets be honest here. The judge is being political.

Based on what?

The Trump appointee is being political?
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:23 pm to
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That's a strange pivot from what we were discussing.









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What is the proper legal manner?

Following the law and not taking actions in violation of the law,



The bold is your response.
This post was edited on 5/2/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:23 pm to
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We'll have to wait and see.....


Agree completely. On the face of it, I think you could argue that it's NOT subject to judicial review. Close call.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:24 pm to
Why did you curate my actual post?

The full comment:

quote:

Following the law and not taking actions in violation of the law, court orders, or outside the legislative or Constitutional authority of the Executive.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:24 pm to
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That was not illegal behavior and it didn't violate any laws.



What laws are being broken by Trump?
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:25 pm to
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Why did you curate my actual post?

The full comment:

quote:
Following the law and not taking actions in violation of the law, court orders, or outside the legislative or Constitutional authority of the Executive.



You are retarded.


Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:26 pm to
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Illegal? No


Where were all the judges questioning the asylum assertion?

I can understand a few thousand, but tens of millions?? Come on!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:26 pm to
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You are retarded.

Because I don't edit posts to create a framed strawman from which to respond?

Why did you intentionally leave out parts of my post?
Posted by dkreller
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:26 pm to
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What laws are being broken by Trump?

You’re gonna get a very well written non-answer.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:28 pm to
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Where were all the judges questioning the asylum assertion?

So now your argument that Biden acted illegally is by referencing other parties?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:28 pm to
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You’re gonna get a very well written non-answer.

That's the power of strawman fallacies.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78835 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:28 pm to
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Why did you intentionally leave out parts of my post?



Why are you ignoring the part where you say they need to follow the laws and I ask you what laws are being broken?


And then you say that's a strange pivot.


You are a very dishonest person. But hey, lawyers lie.

Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3847 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:29 pm to
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By interpreting the language of a statute that has never been interpreted before.


The language is straightforward. That power to proclaim an invasion or predatory incursion is given to the president. Not to the Congress nor the judiciary. The stated goal is to prevent danger to the "public safety".

This post was edited on 5/2/25 at 2:31 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Why are you ignoring the part where you say they need to follow the laws and I ask you what laws are being broken?


Because my response was not limited to just that.

Again, my full post:

quote:

Following the law and not taking actions in violation of the law, court orders, or outside the legislative or Constitutional authority of the Executive.
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
1362 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:30 pm to
We need 20 million court cases to remove illegal invaders from our country. This is the reasonable logical hill democrats are ready to die on.

These are not serious people.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78835 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:30 pm to
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So you can't cite what laws were broken?



That's a strange pivot from what we were discussing.




You were discussing needing to follow laws. I am asking you to cite the laws that were broken and you cant.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78835 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:31 pm to
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Because my response was not limited to just that.

Again, my full post:

quote:
Following the law and not taking actions in violation of the law, court orders, or outside the legislative or Constitutional authority of the Executive.




What laws were broken?
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