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re: A few tips for the people that believe law enforcement is the devil
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:40 pm to Rekrul
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:40 pm to Rekrul
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Tell me your "bill of rights" when you're fighting a cracked out psycho?
Do you say time out to look up the rules?
Don't play dumb. There are bad cops out there. The vast majority are fine but there are some bad apples. I was damn near victim to one one time. I'm as supportive of cops as you'll find but there are some serious a-hole cops, just like any other profession.
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:43 pm to Srbtiger06
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I'm as supportive of cops as you'll find but there are some serious a-hole cops, just like any other profession.
Other professions don't have the option to legally rob or kill you if they so choose.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:48 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Other professions don't have the option to legally rob or kill you if they so choose.
You make absolutely no sense.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:54 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Other professions don't have the option to legally rob or kill you if they so choose.
Haven't seen a surgeon lately have ya?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:55 pm to Rekrul
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Exactly, don't be a fricking a-hole and be upfront about whatever you're doing and you won't be killed.
The poor guy in Minnesota did just that and got killed.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:56 pm to Rekrul
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I've never had this happen in my life, but I'd have no problem with it
What if he plants drugs on you?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:01 pm to Rekrul
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I've never had this happen in my life, but I'd have no problem with it. I have nothing to hide
You do know what that means, correct? That youre essentially giving away property to someone because they asked for it? You also understand that you'd lose in court if you sign with consent?
Heres a little snippet of some other folks who have no problem with this...
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In the East Texas town of Tenaha, the district attorney oversaw a particularly Dickensian operation: Local cops would stop out-of-town drivers on the flimsiest of pretexts to look for cash, DVD players, cell phones, anything of value. The DA would threaten drivers with criminal charges, even promising to have state authorities remove kids from parents unless they waived rights to the property.
A class-action lawsuit uncovered that the proceeds from this highway robbery—an estimated $3 million between 2006 and 2008—were paying for popcorn machines, donations to a local Baptist church and bonuses for law enforcement key to the operation. Meanwhile, the DA was handing out light sentences to those caught with drugs, or laundered money, in exchange for seizing their assets.
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What if he plants drugs on you?
What if a plane crashes into your bedroom tonight? With all due respect your argument doesn't make much sense.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What if he plants drugs on you?
Or in my case, accuses you of DWI.
Didn't have a damn thing to drink all day but was on the road late. Crossed over the highway turning down the road that goes to my house and cop says I almost hit 3 cars. I didn't even see cars the prior 20 minutes on the same highway. NO WAY I almost hit one, much less three. Then he says I'm clearly drunk, he could 'smell the alcohol' and makes me do field sobriety test. I pass everything and he still says he's taking me in and to call someone to get my truck. It was a trooper and fortunately my dad was good friends with the captain or whatever so I said I was calling him. I HATE when people drop names and shite but at that point I honestly didn't feel I had a choice. He went back to his car and "made some calls" and let me go but the entire ordeal was bullshite.
I ended up getting in touch with my dad's friend the next day and he even admitted the guy has had some issues with that sort of thing recently.
Like I said, I've been pulled over maybe 5 times in the 15 years I've been driving and that was the only time I've ever had any issue at all.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:06 pm to Rekrul
And when they barge into your house (the wrong address) unannounced with guns drawn and 2 in the morning, just let them shoot you and your dog. It will be easier that way.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:07 pm to Rekrul
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When they tell you to do something (i.e. Get on the ground, kneel, put your hands up, etc) just fricking do it.
Uh...this isn't a military dictatorship.
Lot of lawyers on this board - and people who believe in the Constitution.
...and while BLM sucks - the answer to just kow-tow to police because they shout louder and have guns isn't the answer. If we all just capitulate - then we have had a military coup...simply by agreeing to have our rights trampled on by those with guns. (no wonder they want our guns taken away)
The answer is to hold police accountable to the rule of law and the Constitution. Not just "obey" what they say...WTF is that?
That's your reasoning? Lose your Constitutional rights by obeying and doing what you're told and only then...only then...will you not be shot.
I don't know of any Conservative or Libertarian or hell, most all Americans would be cool with your solution to police violance against all races.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:08 pm to Rekrul
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What if a plane crashes into your bedroom tonight? With all due respect your argument doesn't make much sense.
You seem extremely naive.
Drug planting is a regular occurrence.
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rampart scandal
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:08 pm to Rekrul
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Do that and your "opression" will end and it's much more efficient than knocking the windows out of businesses while rioting
Sure, oppression will end as soon as we give up all of our civil rights and just let the government do whatever they want to us.
Oh, cop decides to shake me down and endanger in some civil asset forfeiture. Just let them, if not you deserve the bullet in the back of your head, right.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:10 pm to Rekrul
The problem is that in too many places the cops and the criminals are indistinguishable.
Until that changes things will only get worse.
Until that changes things will only get worse.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:12 pm to Rekrul
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they will help you 100% of the time
Like that Australian woman in Minnesota who called the cops to report a crime and ended up shot dead by those same cops.
Yea they really helped her out.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:14 pm to memphis tiger
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The problem is that in too many places the cops and the criminals are indistinguishable.
Until that changes things will only get worse.
There are about a million law enforcement officers. Imagine if 5% could be corrupted? That's 50k on the streets that could frick you up.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:15 pm to Rekrul
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I've never had this happen in my life, but I'd have no problem with it. I have nothing to hide
Just to be clear, you are saying that you have zero problems with cops literally stealing from you because "you have nothing to hide"?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:18 pm to memphis tiger
Law enforcement make mistakes, just like everyone else. I agree that it's unacceptable and it should never happen, but it does and it's extremely rare.
How would our lives be without law enforcement though? I'm not LE and no one in my social circle is, but this country would be third world without them and that's the point of this thread.
Show some fricking respect because you're calling them when you need them and you can't deny that
How would our lives be without law enforcement though? I'm not LE and no one in my social circle is, but this country would be third world without them and that's the point of this thread.
Show some fricking respect because you're calling them when you need them and you can't deny that
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There are about a million law enforcement officers. Imagine if 5% could be corrupted? That's 50k on the streets that could frick you up.
A big part of the problem is that low standards and lower pay have made it so that the only people who even want to be cops these days are the roided up meatheads just out begging for a reason to frick someone up, innocent or not.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:23 pm to Rekrul
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Show some fricking respect because you're calling them when you need them and you can't deny that
Sure they should be treated with respect just like every other human being.
But treating them with respect and allowing them carte blanche to shot all over our civil rights (as you seem to advocate for in this thread) is ridiculous.
Cops should be held to a higher standard and should be held accountable for their frick ups. Far too often they are not.
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