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re: A Common Sense Approach to Dealing with the College Debt Crisis

Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:02 am to
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:02 am to
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This same thought process should be used for the welfare state as well.


The same should be said for SALT and mortgage interest deductions so many on here are bitching and moaning about.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:03 am to
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We need to put vocational classes in high schools or let students get high school credit for going to trade schools.


We already have this. I know there are several Votech schools. We needs to increase participation rates in those schools that already exist.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42753 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:32 am to
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Stop lending people money to go to college (to get worthless degrees). Problem solved.


AB-SO-TIVELY - if you want to 'pursue your dreams' of weaving baskets, then don't expect me to sacrifice my dream of living life the way I want to live it by financing your "dreams."
Posted by The Goon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2008
1247 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:33 am to
The US should completely overhaul vocational training. In Canada you can either get a two year Engineering technologist degree or complete four years and get a professional certificate. The CET has the same engineering concepts, just no humanities and less lab time.

PEs still sign off on drawings, but you have a larger sum of technically capable workers to fill the needs of industry.

No diversity coordinator, no women’s gender studies, and no under water basket weaving at a technology school.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16632 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 12:07 pm to
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We needs to increase participation rates in those schools that already exist.



And Yang has nothing to actually accomplish this. Mike Rowe has said the same for years, Yang is not original and has zero solutions.
Posted by The Goon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2008
1247 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:33 pm to
Make the schools and/or the state responsible for part of all federal loans to the school. Have the fed government back a set amount per student at a specified interest rate and loan that directly to the school. The school then sets the student loan interest rate and loans it to the student. Ultimately it is up to the school to repay the fed loans.

Take in too many liberal degrees with no chance of repayment and the school goes under.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12580 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:42 pm to
How about Bringin back "shop" classes and starting courses about finance and higher education during high school. You know, helping high school students gain better perspective on what they want to do prior to graduating HS?

Not every kid needs to get a bachelor degree or attend a university.

Majority of freshman and sophomores have no idea what the he'll they want to be and wasting money on tuition for BS basic classes.

Also, stop guaranteeing student loans... number 1 reason for college tuition Tripling or more over the last 25 years.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45747 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:54 pm to
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Think STEM degrees

We should probably keep some English degrees in there. Have you seen the abysmal grammar of folks these days?

I actually don't have an issue with loaning people money for the degree of their choice. If you choose art history as your major, then that is what you choose. It's a risk, but it's your risk to take. Regardless of the degree, your career is what you make of it. If you borrow the money, you pay it back. It's really that simple.

If you're going to mandate that schools loan money based on degrees with earning potential, are you also going to mandate that they place those graduating students in jobs that pay accordingly?

Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45747 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:00 pm to
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We need to put vocational classes in high schools or let students get high school credit for going to trade schools.

We used to have this. It was DE, Distributive Education, which was vocational training and COE, Cooperative Office Education, which was secretarial or other type office work.

It counted toward your graduation requirement and you got actual job experience for when you graduated.
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