re: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals Rules mRNA COVID-19 Jab is NOT a Vaccine

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Traditional vaccines give you an inactive dose of the actual virus

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Right. Traditionally they're live attenuated, or killed. There is little immunological difference between killed, particulated antigens and mRNA vax produced antigens. Eventually, mRNA technology will predominate vax production.

The current difference is a killed vax exposes patients to a far wider range of viral antigen than, for example, a single reduced segment of particular s-protein produced by the mRNA vax. Whereas the former entails more side-effect potential, it is also more immunogenic, i.e., effective.

So while saying the mRNA vax is "not a vaccine" is uninformed, noting that mRNA CV19 vax iterations, especially the recent ones, are ineffective is simple fact.

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that's every viral vaccine. you still get the virus. that's a stupid why of defining anything.

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Uh, polio vaccine says "hold my beer while I enlighten you".

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Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against paralytic polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective

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Sometimes we are surprised, and the vax is ineffective.

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I know they missed rather badly a few years ago. However, although ineffective against what turned out to be the predominate strain, it still would have been effective against the strain that it was developed to fight, right? So, still a vaccine.

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Them saying natural immunity wasn’t a thing with Covid was the first flaming red flag for me with this “vax.”

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For me, it was the speed with which they crafted it.

The normal timeframe for a new medicine's testing is ~10 years, animal testing alone usually lasts at least a year. For fast-tracked medicines, the testing time is cut down greatly, but it's still something like 3-5 years of testing before it's approved for widespread use.

This concoction went from being created in February 2020 to beginning being mass-distributed by January 2021. Anyone not skeptical about that was ruled by their fear, had no fricking clue about the history of rushed drugs (thalidomide, swine flu vax in 76, etc) -nor wished to know about it-, is the type of person who knee-jerks falls for the "new is better" philosophy to the point of wearing blinders to prevent objective criticisms (see also: EVs), or some combination thereof.

It had nothing to do with right/left, but knowing that quick creation is, more often than not, rife with carelessness. It had to do with the science of understanding that you need to fully vet something before you begin demanding people inject themselves with it and that takes time.

You can read any COVID vaccine thread on any board on any day and come to realize quickly who trusted the government and who has the clot shot running through their veins!



Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt!

So when is everyone gonna die? Soon? How long this gonna take. Inflation killing me gimme a clot shot.

I'm shocked that the 9th circuit court came out with this ruling.

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So when is everyone gonna die? Soon?

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Reminder for the Tennessee fans: If COVID-19 were the extinction level event that your television earnestly swore to you that it was, there would've been flatbed trucks going around every town in the country picking up the bodies of the homeless, as they would've been incredibly susceptible, and likely have compromised immune systems.

They did not.