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re: 98.7% of Americans will be in Full ** PROTEST FATIGUE STAGE ** in 24-36 hrs!
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:51 am to djsdawg
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:51 am to djsdawg
quote:
He resisted detainment just like the dumb lady did.
Again, the video does not show that. It shows a struggle, yes, but the guy looked to me like he was just trying to help the woman somehow and the agents started pushing and pepper spraying him and he was trying to avoid the spray.
I'm not saying he didn't insert himself into the fray—he did—but I don't see anything on that video that shows him being aggressive toward the officers, or even "resisting detainment." It looks to me like he was just trying to survive it.
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Easily fixable.
Command ICE to show their face and act more appropriately. Arrest every single person responsible for the difficulties ICE is facing if there is a coordinated effort there and crimes are being committed.
Command ICE to show their face and act more appropriately. Arrest every single person responsible for the difficulties ICE is facing if there is a coordinated effort there and crimes are being committed.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:52 am to Houag80
quote:
Which video....there's about a hundred at current count
Yeah, I haven't seen one of them that supports that narrative and I guess I've seen maybe 5 different ones.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:53 am to wackatimesthree
quote:Gear is fine. Show your face.
Was it? Are you aware that citizens using vehicles to attempt to hit ICE agents went up 3200% in 2025? And I assume you've seen the reports of agents being doxed and leftists gong to their homes. So no combat gear, no attempt to hide identity under those conditions?
Disappear anyone hitting ICE agents with vehicles.
Simple.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:54 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
If someone causes harm to an agent of heir family after being doxxed, bury the person who caused them harm and bury the person who doxxed them. How is any of this hard?
It's rarely one person but organized networks of people... who somehow escape consequences.
If actually punishing these doxxers were doable, then I'd feel differently.
For a thought exercise- how would you punish the following?
Amanda starts an ICE awareness group.
Brandon joins and posts Officer Leo's picture
Candance jumps in with Officer's full name
Danny finds and posts Officer's address
Ellie finds out and posts where Officer's wife works and kids go to school
Frank obtains and posts photos of the family
Gina harasses the children coming out of school
Harry follows wife to work and to the store, photographing her and confronting her.
Isaiah slashes tires and defaces their vehicles and mailbox
What do you do? Do you charge Amanda for starting the group? Brandon, Candace, Danny, Ellie and Frank for sharing private but publicly attainable information? Just Gina, Harry and Isaiah for physical harassment?
What's the appropriate punishment?
It's easier and better for agents to mask up- safer for their families too.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:55 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Show your face.
No
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:57 am to wackatimesthree
quote:
I'm not saying he didn't insert himself into the fray—he did
/thread
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:58 am to djsdawg
quote:
He resisted detainment just like the dumb lady did
This
Comply or die
As harsh as that may sound, if you're carrying heavy and are physically resisting and fighting with LEOs, there's a good chance you could be capped.
...and if he didn't know that, then oh well.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:59 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
How is any of this hard?
Because "burying" someone who does harm to an ICE agent or his family (even of you can solve the crime and capture the guilty party, which is, of course, not in the least guaranteed) doesn't help the ICE agent. The damage is already done.
This is the folly of our immersion into the culture of retributive/punitive justice. Punishing someone doesn't actually change anything for the party who has been hurt.
People who wallow in punitive justice think about this like keeping score in a basketball game. Someone scores on you, you just punish them by scoring on them, and your score cancels out the original score.
It doesn't work that way in real life. Someone kills your child or spouse, it doesn't matter what you do to the person who killed them, your child or spouse is dead and is not coming back.
So I would imagine ICE agents would rather have living family members than punished family member killers. By a significant margin.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 10:04 am
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:59 am to VOR
quote:
First, it was a mistake to send in ICE en masse in combat gear and masked. The n
That’s a very minor aspect of this. These libs were gonna fight with or without the masks
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:02 am to SDVTiger
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/thread
Not surprised that you would conclude that with your allergy to nuance and detail, but no, that's not what that means.
Otherwise, Kyle Rittenhouse would be in prison today, because he sure as hell inserted himself into the fray, armed about as heavy as he could be.
And the left claimed just what you're claiming here. "He went looking for trouble, he found it, therefore everything that happened was his fault."
But that's not how it works for people with an IQ over 80.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:03 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Simple.
Yes, you and your analysis are simple.
But see above.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:12 am to SallysHuman
quote:Kill them then. Is the government not capable of stopping it?
It's rarely one person but organized networks of people... who somehow escape consequences.
quote:If I’m a dictator I probably bring Ellie and all of these folks in and get a good feel for why they are doing this and what I can do to make the deportations more palatable. If they have good ideas, I try to work with them and if they show no cooperation I put them in a cell until the day they die.
Amanda starts an ICE awareness group. Brandon joins and posts Officer Leo's picture Candance jumps in with Officer's full name Danny finds and posts Officer's address Ellie finds out and posts where Officer's wife works and kids go to school Frank obtains and posts photos of the family Gina harasses the children coming out of school Harry follows wife to work and to the store, photographing her and confronting her. Isaiah slashes tires and defaces their vehicles and mailbox What do you do?
Realistically? I figure out what laws were broken by each person and charge them. If these people can’t be charged or held accountable and my folks are doing things the right way, I’m fine with a war being fought over all of it.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:15 am to wackatimesthree
quote:Sure. And if it continues to happen we should go to war with the people uncompromising and committing these hypothetical crimes against ICE.
Because "burying" someone who does harm to an ICE agent or his family (even of you can solve the crime and capture the guilty party, which is, of course, not in the least guaranteed) doesn't help the ICE agent. The damage is already done.
quote:So don’t bury people causing harm?
It doesn't work that way in real life. Someone kills your child or spouse, it doesn't matter what you do to the person who killed them, your child or spouse is dead and is not coming back.
I don’t quite understand.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:17 am to texag7
quote:Ok then be prepared to lose this entire battle if you’re not willing to double down and go HAM on these people.
No
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:20 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Realistically? I figure out what laws were broken by each person and charge them. If these people can’t be charged or held accountable and my folks are doing things the right way, I’m fine with a war being fought over all of it.
But you're not okay with preventing harm to agents or their families by them wearing masks?
You'd rather go to war than prevent harm to wives and children that are harassed, intimidated or even harmed by the doxxing of these agents?
An ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:28 am to SallysHuman
quote:Yes
You'd rather go to war than prevent harm to wives and children that are harassed, intimidated or even harmed by the doxxing of these agents?
I rather do things the right way and punish criminals if they commit crimes. If it becomes a coordinated effort to keep the crimes against agents going, bury the bad actors.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:30 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
If it becomes a coordinated effort to keep the crimes against agents going, bury the bad actors.
If you systematically focus on punishment after the fact when prevention is a viable option, you're going to run out of agents.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:36 am to SallysHuman
I think agents would feel more secure if they knew that government would use their full strength to bury these people when they commit crimes.
If it gets bad enough, the operation should change to all out war against the criminals. I have a feeling the ICE agents would be down for that fight.
Right now, I don’t see many or any ICE agents or their families being attacked. There have been a couple citizen deaths. There have been some folks tussling with ICE.
I don’t think it’s worth the political capital to hide faces when there isn’t much proof that the bad actors are going as far as many are claiming.
If it gets bad enough, the operation should change to all out war against the criminals. I have a feeling the ICE agents would be down for that fight.
Right now, I don’t see many or any ICE agents or their families being attacked. There have been a couple citizen deaths. There have been some folks tussling with ICE.
I don’t think it’s worth the political capital to hide faces when there isn’t much proof that the bad actors are going as far as many are claiming.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Post the data supporting this please.
Did you even look at the poll before you posted it?
Ok, here’s now it breaks down.
Of the 2093 people that were polled, they fell into 2 buckets, MAGA and non-MAGA. 29% of the non-MAGA was in the top aggressive camp. 71% were in the about right or needs to do more camp, meaning that they liked what ICE is doing and/or want them to do more.
Of the MAGA people, 12% fell into the too aggressive category, meaning 88% fell into the about right or needs to do more.
You take the 29% from the non-MAGA camp, add the 12% from the MAGA camp, then divide by 2. That’s how you arrive at the total percentage of people polled who think ICE is too aggressive. That number turns out to be 20.5%.
When you subtract the 20.5% who think ICE is too aggressive from 100%, which is the total number of people polled, you’re left with 79.5%. This is the percentage of people who agree with what ICE is doing and/or want them to do more.
It’s really very simple…
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 10:43 am
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