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re: $8000 School Choice Vouchers Being Discussed In Texas

Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:24 am to
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:24 am to
School choice is widely available in Orleans Parrish and has resulted in a massive improvement in Orleans Parrish performance scores.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:27 am to
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It’s going to take something drastic and systemwide to change anything.
You mean something drastic like parents raising their kids to have respect and understand how important an education is. Rather than holding people accountable they want school choice which will put the shite heads in schools with kids who have parents that raise their kids the right way.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 7:28 am
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:28 am to
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Louisiana should pass School Choice Vouchers into law and each family get $8,000

And private school tuition will go up 8k over night. Take a look at college tuition since the inception of TOPS and federal student loans.

Some people are morons lol
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62970 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:30 am to
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Would also be a good way to destroy some good private schools


The law of supply and demand would dictate that the price for those schools will naturally go up.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:30 am to
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What I don’t understand about school choice is-wouldn’t there be full schools everyone wanted to go to


Price
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:31 am to
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Would also be a good way to destroy some good private schools


That's the goal. My hometown (DFW suburb) had excellent public schools when I was a kid. Eventually, the FedGov took notice and decided that we weren't diverse enough. So, HUD bought up enough Section 8 housing to properly enrich the area and make it more vibrant.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:32 am to
It’s been awesome so far for us in Florida. Nice that my tax dollars actually being used

Also our tuition for next year hasn’t gone up any more than the normal year over year increase we’ve had the last 5 years.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 7:34 am
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:35 am to
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Is this $8000 extra? Or, is it $$ that would follow the student? IE...the private school gets the money the public would otherwise? I could support that, as it's cash neutral.


Yes. This is how it goes here in Florida. Parents can even use it for homeschooling curriculum.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 7:47 am
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:36 am to
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My kids are $10k a year per student. It’d be helpful even for $20k/year tuition
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I work with K12 and support public education entirely.
if I am understanding this correctly you support public education but your kids don’t go to public school?
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:37 am to
In Florida they basically made the voucher for the amount the public schools got from the state . So the state money is just following the kid which is a good thing . The problem in Florida is that private schools had to accept both types of vouchers and one of them had strings attached to it . The small private school my daughter goes to said they will likely not accept the vouchers next year unless there is changes. Seems like this is something that is going to be popular now that multiple states have done it .
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:38 am to
There’s been a “massive improvement” across the country because schools are passing anyone with a pulse.
Posted by Wasp
Off Highland rd.
Member since Sep 2012
1535 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:38 am to
I don’t see anything about that currently online.
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:42 am to
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What people don’t realize is parents have always had school choice. You want your kid to go to a better school move to that district. You want your kid in private school, save money and pay like the rest.

There is a reason the best schools are located where they are. Whats next? Giving vouchers and grants so they can get a house in a better neighborhood too?



Yeah bro, all you have to do is buy or rent in the more expensive part of town. It's no big deal if you're making only 30 or 35k a year. Easy peasy.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:43 am to
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if I am understanding this correctly you support public education but your kids don’t go to public school?


Correct.

While I have many issues with public education in its current form, I think it gives the majority of students (outside of behemoth inner city schools) a chance better themselves and in Texas there has been a big focus on CTE for non college students.

My biggest gripes are “woke” (I hate the term, but it fits) ideology and an overhiring of administrators. And consultants. Don’t get me started on consultants.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:43 am to
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Would also be a good way to destroy some good private schools

While I'm against this welfare redistribution, who is enrolling their kids in expensive private schools solely because they received an $8000 off coupon?
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:46 am to
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The small private school my daughter goes to said they will likely not accept the vouchers next year unless there is changes
this seems like a great way for small private schools to boost their enrollment. Don't accept vouchers and only accept kids that their parents pay. Plenty will seek these places out for their kids
Posted by Wasp
Off Highland rd.
Member since Sep 2012
1535 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:47 am to
This doesn’t destroy the good private schools. They have admissions requirements and many are full anyway.

What happens is new schools pop up in churches that the kids attend. They are understaffed or under qualified to teach and or run a school. The kids don’t learn anything and the church grifts those vouchers with tuition being exactly the voucher amount.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:47 am to
Up here the system is in it's early stages, one private school in my city has added about 60 students K-12 not sure about the other Catholic school system.

Talked to a kid's parents that moved over to the school I coach at, the voucher made it affordable, if not they would have stayed at the public school.

Biggest issue is there are limited seats so this isn't going to empty out public schools like some fear.

Posted by Wasp
Off Highland rd.
Member since Sep 2012
1535 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:48 am to
Are you receiving those vouchers too? Or do you have to qualify for it?

I thought we were talking about ALL students getting a voucher.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72115 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:50 am to
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this seems like a great way for small private schools to boost their enrollment. Don't accept vouchers and only accept kids that their parents pay. Plenty will seek these places out for their kids


The small private school that my kids went to initially is actually in danger of losing about 65% of their current 3rd grade because they DON’T accept it and equivalent schools do.

My kids current school doesn’t accept the money directly. We have to go through the process and receive a card for the state for part of the tuition. The same kids who went before still go there. We’re basically paying 10/kid as opposed to 18-19 now
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 7:51 am
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