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re: 5,000 troops headed to border

Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:21 am to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:21 am to
I would be surprised if the military EVER deploys this many troops without a handful of MPs.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16649 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Patrolling our streets is one thing, repelling invaders is something else all together.


That action is exactly why we have a military. Fighting on foreign soil is one thing, but defending the homeland should be their primary job.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26073 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:25 am to
Why should PC apply when the people the troops would be deployed against are NOT US citizens? It should not matter where, but who.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:25 am to
No amendment to the PC act is needed for a national.military to defend.a border from foreign.invasion. That is the most fundamental role of a national military. The PC act is designed to.protect American citizens from a.Commander in.Chief using it in a law enforcement role domestically.

We better do more to defend our own border than we did.for South Korea and Kuwait.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56121 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:28 am to
According to the following the troops can be armed if the decision is made that their lives could be in danger. That will be the rub right there.

quote:

Arming DoD personnel with firearms shall be limited and controlled. Qualified personnel shall be armed when
required for assigned duties and there is reasonable expectation that DoD installations, property, or personnel lives

or DoD assets will be jeopardized if personnel are not armed. Evaluation of the necessity to arm DoD personnel
shall be made with the consideration of the possible consequences of accidental or indiscriminate use of those
arms. However, the overriding factors in determining whether or not to arm are the mission and threat. Arming
DoD personnel (i.e., administrative, assessment, or inspection, not regularly engaged in or directly supervising
security or law enforcement activities) shall be limited to missions or threats and the immediate need to protect
DoD assets or persons' lives.
In reference to the DOD Directive, the military departments also have promulgated policies and regulations
regarding carrying firearms for personal protection while on duty. (see Table 1.) Across the Services, the carrying
of government-issued firearms for personal protection is generally prohibited unless authorized by high-level
officials, and in most cases requires an evaluation of threat conditions.


When the walkers get close the military needs to drop a few thousands flyers warning them of this.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23700 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:31 am to
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52352 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:33 am to
Before one of the lefty tards chimes in, we're ALREADY under a presidential declared National Emergency so the military can be used as he sees fit.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:37 am to
quote:

National Emergency so the military can be used as he sees fit.


While true, he (his advisors) are probably attempting to avoid some lefty judge attempting to step in on any of this...

The aviation assets will surveil and jump BP agents or even NG to where they are needed.

The engineers will build and operate temporary detention centers, along with medical and other logistics personnel...

You will have some ground transportation assets that will transport to the detention centers...

The MP's will have a force protection role and could possibly man the gates of the detention centers... More than likely they will be the only AD with live ammo...
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:38 am to
Saw a line of Humvees at Buccees.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:39 am to
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25898 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:40 am to
quote:

support troops, not combat troops.



5000 support troops should be able to support quite the combat regiment when it get's deployed.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119775 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:41 am to
But, but muh optics!
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 3:11 pm to
Couple of interesting points from Jennifer Griffin's twitter:

1. 800 troops already there, another 200 arrive tomorrow, 1,700 will be in place by Saturday. Troops are authorized to be there through December 15th.

2. DoD will be paying for the deployment not DHS.

3. Troops arriving today will be setting up 3 unified command centers, temporary shelters for up to 2400 Border Patrol, also authorizes MREs and riot gear for up to 500 Border Patrol agents.

4. RoE have not been determined yet. The CBP wants DoD personnel to be in "direct contact with migrants and protesters". DoD order says this may cause issues with Posse Comitatus
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 3:12 pm
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