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re: 50% Tariffs on EU delayed

Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:53 pm to
Since you have Trump's plan figured out so well maybe you can in detail tell us what the positives will be from his trade war policies
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:57 pm to
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Since you have Trump's plan figured out so well maybe you can in detail tell us what the positives will be from his trade war policies



How about you do the work and do some research and watch a few Trump rallies, town halls, or podcasts.

“Figured out so well” Jesus Christ it’s pretty fricking simple if you watch the source instead of the medias version of it. You’re a dipshit who has likely never watched Trump because you hate him but spend all your time on here trashing him.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:58 pm to
What day is it?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5241 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 5:26 am to
Hard and fast rule: whatever specifics President Trump initially mentions regarding tariffs are lies.

We can debate the merits of the lying, but it's hard to imagine it's an effective bargaining tactic now.

How many new deals have been reached since Liberation Day?
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 5:28 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
16996 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:07 am to
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How many new deals have been reached since Liberation Day?


30% on chini, 10% on the rest of the world, and a side deal with the UK. A few one offs, but we collected 16.3 billon in April, not bad.

I really dont understand some on this board. When you have a trade deficit, the other entry is cash. When trillions of cash keep leaving the country it shows up as debt, or selling of assets, both of which are glaringly evident.

We have 37 trillion in debt and many iconic "American" brands are no more, like Budweiser, Ray Ban, Oakly, Smithfield ham, Burger King, Tiffany, Firestone, etc.

Is it too much to ask for Fair not free but Fair trade?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:09 am to
6d chess
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84682 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:10 am to
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Is it too much to ask for Fair not free but Fair trade?


Makes no sense why the “conservative” libertarians don’t want this.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
87850 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:17 am to
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A couple of weeks ago, the Tigerdroppings poli-board screamed loud and proud about how Americans wanted these jobs back.


Why are you always top 3 dumbest in each thread

Europe caved just like Chyna did
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5241 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:18 am to
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Is it too much to ask for Fair not free but Fair trade?


I trust and appreciate that President Trump has us moving in the right direction. I'm just not a fan of the constant idle threats.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:19 am to
That means his threat has gotten them back to the table and he has delayed the implementation to give the process more time……
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87850 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:24 am to
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That means his threat has gotten them back to the table and he has delayed the implementation to give the process more time……


Its truly amazing that the clown crew cant understand this. But they are the ones who claimed the economy was crashing and sold all their stocks at a loss
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5241 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:38 am to
Did ANYONE think that Trump was going to actually impose a 50% tariff on the EU? Here was part of the discussion back then:

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:44 am to
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Did ANYONE think that Trump was going to actually impose a 50% tariff on the EU? Here was part of the discussion back then:


No cause anyone with a brain knows they would cave. And they did

But the panicans tards who are ALWAYS wrong will always say he caved or is a loose cannon
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
15676 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:50 am to
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Trump has been consistent.


Wut

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It sucks for businesses right now


It’s impossible for American manufacturers to know how to respond and deal with the constant on and off of tariffs. It’s doing real damage.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84682 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:59 am to
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Did ANYONE think that Trump was going to actually impose a 50% tariff on the EU? Here was part of the discussion back then:


The part you’re forgetting is that the EU was the first to step up to the table.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:00 am to
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When you have a trade deficit, the other entry is cash. When trillions of cash keep leaving the country it shows up as debt,


What the frick?

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We have 37 trillion in debt


Oh my god why do y'all keep doing this to yourself?

The trade deficit is not in any way directly linked to our public debt.

Fixing our trade imbalance will do jack and shite to combat the public debt. In fact, there are strong arguments that certain proposed goals (since we don't know what the actual goal is) would increase the public debt by hurting our GDP. Lower GDP = lower tax revenue (tariffs can't make up for it) = higher public deficits = more debt.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87850 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:01 am to
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strong arguments that certain proposed goals


So no actual facts just strong arguments from left wing hacks

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5241 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:06 am to
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The part you’re forgetting is that the EU was the first to step up to the table.


Not doubting that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:14 am to
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So no actual facts

Well the goals keep changing and are a constant, moving target.

The "bring manufacturing home" and "we will use tariffs to replace income tax" goals will devolve our economy and decrease our GDP, which will decrease tax receipts. While it's not specifically stated that way, that's the idea behind those goals (devolve our economy and SOL to where these manufacturing jobs are suitable for us, and then use the tariffs to supplant income taxes).

Now, the debate is whether or not these are actually part of the goals. We don't know b/c that's just a malleable concept at this point and a constantly moving target so that any result is correct in hindsight.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10340 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:15 am to
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but markets and businesses cannot turn on a dime


Businesses don't. Markets can be highly emotional and volatile, not following logical paths, and instead reacting to how much airtime something gets on CNBC. And it bears repeating that the Dow represents 30 companies, not most of them. ex-FIL always panicked about the Dow, meanwhile index funds tend to be less volatile in the news.

Supply chain management has been its own degree field for at least a decade, and anyone that deals with sourcing goods from international markets is fully aware of the risk that governments present to the business. OPEC, export controls on textiles, import rules on agricultural products, Indonesia? deciding to go carbon neutral and sending 300 million people into a panic almost overnight, etc.
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