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re: 4Chan breaks the "Gamestop Crisis" down for you, as only they can

Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:02 am to
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:02 am to
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They can potentially make big bucks if I understand this right with a very small initial investment. They are much better at the game than the Ivy League educated crowd and have caught them with their pantaloons down.

Indeed they can smoke Wall Street good if left unchecked. And they are doing it within the rules.



How do you make money buying a $20 stock for $300, they may have screwed the Hedge funds that were shorting but someone is holding the bag for sending the message.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:02 am to
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And they are doing it within the rules.

but they're not
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:05 am to
At this point, the smart money isn’t in GameStop buying, it is looking for the next target like BlackBerry, Nokia, AMC, etc.
Posted by BiteMe2020
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:06 am to
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but they're not


It's illegal to talk to people about stocks and go in on a short squeeze?
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:06 am to
All the retail apps are preventing customers from buying the meme stocks right now.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:07 am to
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A lady on fox business called it cyber bullying of hedge fund managers lmao



The best thing that can come out of this are people realizing that the powerful do not care about most of America except at election time. They care about wealthy and powerful people. I am not some hardcore lefty (quite conservative) but the uni-party has got to go. That is why Trump's message resonated so well and why they had to destroy him.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:07 am to
And if coordination on a public forum is illegal to do a short squeeze based on public information, how is it legal for multiple hedge funds to do a raid on a stock in order to short it and reap the profits?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:09 am to
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It's illegal to talk to people about stocks and go in on a short squeeze?

it's illegal to coordinate with people to buy/sell securities with the intent to affect the price in order to induce others to buy/sell the securities.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:09 am to
Yeah, like that will end well.

People may not be pushing it higher but it will sit until the call date on the shorts.

Hedge funds will have locked in losses of about $320+ per share.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:09 am to
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how is it legal for multiple hedge funds to do a raid on a stock in order to short it and reap the profits?

that all depends on how the information was exchanged
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:10 am to
You mean like hedge funds doing a massive coordinated short to try and scare other stock owners into selling so they could buy low?
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:11 am to
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that all depends on how the information was exchanged


People sitting in a coffee shop talking, or in a virtual equivalent of the same.

The short interest was public knowledge.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:14 am to
I bought 1 share this morning just for shites and giggles, lol.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:14 am to
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People sitting in a coffee shop talking, or in a virtual equivalent of the same.

The short interest was public knowledge.

we're talking about the hedge funds. if they coordinated in this manner, it's illegal, too. likely they will have other explanations

the same reason how reddit found out these companies were exposed is likely how. many of these positions are not secret and people follow suit

what happened on Reddit was different. it was clearly a coordinated effort to increase the price of the stock in order to get people to buy more to increase the price of the stuck. that's illegal.

is it fair? no, but our system is built to prevent this sort of collaboration and our regulations/laws don't specifically cover the ability of one person to influence millions in minutes. the existing laws/regs will not like this behavior
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
103148 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:20 am to
These are all the fricks I give.


Behold all my fricks!


We basically have similar behaviors by two groups and the one who initially acted in the wrong is crying foul because someone used their techniques against them.

When individual investors get fricked by hedge funds, the SEC normally doesn’t get involved.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:23 am to
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we're talking about the hedge funds. if they coordinated in this manner, it's illegal, too. likely they will have other explanations


Ahh, I thought the argument was that the Reddit discussions and subsequent investments were illegal.

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the same reason how reddit found out these companies were exposed is likely how. many of these positions are not secret and people follow suit


Well, the short share interest % is public information. It might be public information which hedge funds were heavily shorting, not sure there.

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what happened on Reddit was different. it was clearly a coordinated effort to increase the price of the stock in order to get people to buy more to increase the price of the stuck. that's illegal.


Alternatively, it was a coordinated effort to conduct a short squeeze, which is a legit strategy. I still don't see how that would be illegal. Discussing buying stocks with someone - in public - doesn't seem especially conspiratorial, lol.

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is it fair? no, but our system is built to prevent this sort of collaboration and our regulations/laws don't specifically cover the ability of one person to influence millions in minutes. the existing laws/regs will not like this behavior


Well, to qualify that - they don't like that behavior by the peons.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 8:24 am
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:25 am to
Good. frick these hedge fund bastards. Let them eat cake in their bankruptcies.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:25 am to
As an older millennial that has been plagued by bad boomer leadership; I love this.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:31 am to
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what happened on Reddit was different. it was clearly a coordinated effort to increase the price of the stock in order to get people to buy more to increase the price of the stuck. that's illegal.
so Elon Musk is playing with fire?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:33 am to
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so Elon Musk is playing with fire?

i would imagine it's the originators of the idea more than those commenting once the cat is out of the bag

there isn't only potential criminal liability. people are going to be sued into oblivion because of this
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