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re: 2nd amendment begins with “well regulated militia” for a reason

Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by OnTheGeaux
Har Tavor
Member since Oct 2009
3067 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:07 pm to
Nope... in fact there are many civilians that don't get screened. Coretta Scott King never gets screened, along with many others.

Yes, you are correct... you don't understand deterrents.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:07 pm to
And this fumb arse thinks "well regulated" refers to regulating those with guns.

He doesnt even realize because of his blindness that it means to be armed as need be against all threats foreign and domestic by "We the People".

Regulated--set to an external standard. For our founding fathers it meant be armed to the tooth against anyone who wished to threaten out new way of life.

Liberals are loathsome to a degree no sector of society could match. It is their ignorance and willingness to hand over their rights for safety.
Posted by culsutiger
Member since Apr 2012
652 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:07 pm to
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standing militia


These two words make it clear that you have no clue what the frick you're talking about here.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:07 pm to
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Relevance? If having a standing militia is the reason for not changing, when was the last time it was utilized?


Again, how is this relevant? It could be called up tomorrow. Or ten years from now. Or 100.

The 2nd is still the 2nd.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56568 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:07 pm to
We have done away with teaching our children about God and Jesus Christ and we have a government pushing for the legalization of drugs and then we are surprised by things like this. If you can;t see that you are part of the problem.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:08 pm to
Oh for the love of god leave religion out of this.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69188 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:10 pm to
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When was the last time said militia was called up?


As described in my previous post, the state militia's (i.e. organized militia as opposed to unorganized militia) were last called up by the federal government during the Spanish American War.

In the Militia Act of 1903, all of the state militias were converted from basically being a spontaneous draft force of all able-bodied men, to the semi-professional force we now know of as the National Guard.

Since then, National Guard units have fought, and continue to do so, in literally every war and police action the U.S. has ever fought in.

Just because the state organized militia was converted to the National Guard by statute does not mean that the intent of the 2nd Amendment was thrown out the window. We still have the draft in our back pockets in the event an armed conflict erupts that our volunteer army is unable to deal with. Having as many of those potential draftees as possible already trained in the care and use of firearms simply makes the training process that much faster and easier.

The unorganized militia is still every able-bodied citizen.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:11 pm to
Nah bro you're right. The militia hasn't been called up in a long time so lets just get rid of an amendment.

I mean frick following the amendment process, shite's old so lets just toss it.

Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11276 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:12 pm to
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It’s to easy for crazy people to get guns in this country. If you can’t see it you are part of the problem.


Citizens with guns was and is the well regulated militia. Don't believe me? Look at who did those water rescues after Harvey in Houston. The Cajun Navy.

The 2nd amendment says what it is says, even if you can't understand the purpose or background.
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7273 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:13 pm to
You stupid motherfricker.
If we gave up our guns, who would protect us from a government gone mad?
What if a Stalin , Hitler, Mao, Hugo Chavez, Castro or any other socialist dictator came into power in the US? What the frick do you think “Democratic Socialism” will turn into?

Really, straight fricking up, here it is.
We won’t give up our guns because of you and idiots like you and your progressive communist socialism authoritarian minded brotheren.
We keep our AR’s, Ak’s, sk’s and all others in order to protect ourselves from you.
Your people, in the future will try and make a single communist party system in America. Anyone who doesn’t join “the party “ will be prosecuted by the state, as in every other communist country. Read alynsky and tell me this is not your plan.
I will not go to a liberal re-education camp.
I will not go to a gulag
I will not burn my bible or take your mark.
You will not control me. The second amendment guarantees my right to protect my family and myself from people like you.
Believe me, you will not take my guns.
Your party does not own me and never will. You may one day take my gun from my dead hands, but I will never give it to you.
My second amendment right is more important to me than your life is.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20203 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:14 pm to
Well regulated militia means something quite different than you think
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69188 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:15 pm to
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I mean frick following the amendment process, shite's old so lets just toss it.


It's far easier to change the meaning of words over time to fit one's policy aims than it is to get a 2/3 majority in both houses of Congress and ratified by 3/4 of all state legislatures.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:16 pm to
What in God’s holy name are you blathering about? Who said anything a full confiscation of guns?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14977 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:18 pm to
So what is your proposal here?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:18 pm to
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Who said anything a full confiscation of guns?



Oh let me guess, you're for "common sense gun control" centered around "banning military style weapons"?

Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:18 pm to
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The purpose of the second amendment was so that every person who wanted a gun would have one and know how to use it in case of war
Point of clarification. There were instances that it was a requirement of citizenship to own a firearm to participate in a militia and also to assist in law enforcement. We have defined militia in present context rather than what it was during the founding of our Nation.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15409 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:20 pm to
Another dumbass liberal who doesn't understand what well regulated means.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79656 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:20 pm to
You can toss the prefatory clause aside and the operative clause makes perfect sense.

But not the other way around.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:20 pm to
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We have defined militia in present context rather than what it was during the founding of our Nation.


Context is a tool of the white male patriarchy.

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