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re: 210 illegals have committed murder since 2020. Spare us the crying over two people in MN

Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:37 am to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:37 am to
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Thanks for confirming that immigrants commit crimes af a lower rate than Americans.



Local PD deals with crime. So you are OK with those local police, who as you pointed out, are already dealing with crimes by citizens, to be further burdened by more crimes from illegals?

You are also asking your fellow Americans, who, as you pointed out, have to deal with crime from other Americans, to be further burdened with crime from illegals?

What benefits do illegals bring to make the burden of additional crime worth it?



Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:06 am to
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Thanks for confirming that immigrants commit crimes af a lower rate than Americans


Are you arguing that we already have too many criminals?
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
11232 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:50 am to
democrats are the party of violence
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
11232 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:07 am to
they are responsible for this shite
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:12 am to
Since I need to spell it out for you. You’re talking like we can get to zero crime if we just chase the right villain. That’s a fantasy. The real world question is what spending reduces crime the most per dollar. If undocumented immigrants offend at lower rates than citizens, then obsessing over them is a less efficient way to reduce crime than funding local enforcement and investigations that hit the highest rate offenders.
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:13 am to
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Since I need to spell it out for you. You’re talking like we can get to zero crime if we just chase the right villain. That’s a fantasy. The real world question is what spending reduces crime the most per dollar. If undocumented immigrants offend at lower rates than citizens, then obsessing over them is a less efficient way to reduce crime than funding local enforcement and investigations that hit the highest rate offenders.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47107 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:14 am to
I heart Avery, by the way.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:16 am to
You’ll pardon me if I don’t accept those stats without question…
Posted by FireawayLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2023
1913 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:23 am to
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Damn this is all the crimes you could come in after “Biden let millions in” 2-3,000 crimes from millions of people. Thanks for confirming that immigrants commit crimes af a lower rate than Americans. Maybe we should send ice after citizens if we want crime to go down.


You being an obvious liberal still can’t be that stupid to make a statement like this. Please tell me you’re trolling.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182329 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:28 am to
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You’re talking like we can get to zero crime if we just chase the right villain.



Link? I never said that

Why add crime, costs, and chaos by allowing millions to stay when our own system is already stretched thin?

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If undocumented immigrants offend at lower rates than citizens, then obsessing over them is a less efficient way to reduce crime than funding local enforcement and investigations that hit the highest rate



This isn’t just about crime, and if you think it is, you’re missing the point. They are net takers who don’t pay their share, while driving up housing costs, healthcare costs, etc.

The reasons they need to leave are extensive, and in the long run, deportation is cheaper. The average illegal immigrant family costs taxpayers over a million dollars.

The crime statistics I cited aren’t the whole argument; they’re just one more problem piled on top of many others.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182329 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:29 am to
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You’ll pardon me if I don’t accept those stats without question…



You're such a hack.

An illegal could rape your husband in front of you and you wouldn't accept it as a crime
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5564 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:37 am to
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Maybe we should send ice after citizens if we want crime to go down.


After looking at violent crime demographics, are you sure you would want to do that?

I am sure this isn't the ownage you thought it was.
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:39 am to
Thank you. Quit pretending it's about crime. It's always about money. You think they are getting more than you. You obviously don't know that most immigrants documented or undocumented do pay taxes. They pay more than they receive in benefits. But again, lets not let facts get in the way of your racism.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17467 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:40 am to
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Damn this is all the crimes you could come in after “Biden let millions in” 2-3,000 crimes from millions of people. Thanks for confirming that immigrants commit crimes af a lower rate than Americans. Maybe we should send ice after citizens if we want crime to go down.


Uhhhhhhh every single illegal alien has committed a crime. 100% rate. They do not "commit crimes at a lower rate than Americans". They commit crimes at a 100% rate.

Unless you can tell me what laws I'm excused from following that is.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 9:40 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182329 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:44 am to
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Quit pretending it's about crime. It's always about money. You think they are getting more than you. You obviously don't know that most immigrants documented or undocumented do pay taxes. They pay more than they receive in benefits. But again, lets not let facts get in the way of your racism.



Jesus...you are a simpleton and hit all the loony liberal talking points.

Waste of time trying to reason with idiots like you.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35494 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:56 am to
But MUH American citizens ALSO commit crimes.

Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5564 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:01 am to
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 Quit pretending it's about crime. It's always about money.

Over the target. Let the payload drop.
quote:

 You obviously don't know that most immigrants documented or undocumented do pay taxes.

Shite, payload is overshooting the target!
quote:

They pay more than they receive in benefits.

Well, maybe we will hit target next time.
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:05 am to
Unlawful presence is a civil violation, not a crime. Existing isn’t illegal.

If you think it is, cite the criminal code section.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157776 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:09 am to
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real world question is what spending reduces crime the most per dollar.


You wouldn’t like the answer.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:10 am to
It’s so damn funny watching this board forget the constitution once the left start using it.
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