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re: 2000 Mules Fact Checking

Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:29 pm to
Is this going to turn into 19 pages of you being a collusion truther while simultaneously denying you are a collusion truther?

Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:30 pm to
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texridder
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:36 pm to
Taxi driver, waitr, Uber eats, bus driver.
Posted by Jess Mee
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:45 pm to
In other words, you can't.
Posted by AUFanInSoCal
Orange County
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:49 pm to
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It’s full of “half truths” like “cell phone tracking data isn’t as accurate as they say it is.


In the Charlie Kirk interview Greg states "Cellular data can be drilled down to an 18 inch diameter". This would provide them the ability to track a mule standing in front of a drop box.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126859 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:54 pm to
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In other words, you can't.

Posted by Jess Mee
Member since Nov 2021
19 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 10:22 pm to
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In the Charlie Kirk interview Greg states "Cellular data can be drilled down to an 18 inch diameter". This would provide them the ability to track a mule standing in front of a drop box.


Then why didn't they?
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 10:24 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 10:32 pm to
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If something is going to presented as science based evidence they should show the supporting methodology.

Another nothing post from a nothing poster.


Just wasting time with a bunch of people that don’t know the difference between conjecture, and inference.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 10:41 pm to
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The problem is they don’t really prove this in movie. They say it but don’t follow through with real proof. That one article gives multiple examples of how it’s easily written off. In Pennsylvania for example they had no video. A State politician says he has four devices and went around to all kinds of polling places. Just as example. The same problem ON VIDEO going to multiple boxes and their path matched (hopefully with a name) And showing stops at democrat non profits. They said they have all this but don’t show it. You had to know you couldn’t leave doors open.


Why do think they have no video in PA? The criteria was 10 DB visits & 5 "stash houses" so the State politician would have been ignored. They also established patterns before the time frame of the actual report. How many State politicians roll around in the middle of the night, unless they're up to no good as well?

The reluctance to divulge names of any parties involved was to avoid lawfare, IMHO. This movie was intended to compel investigations as much as anything else.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
126344 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 12:52 am to
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Just wasting time with a bunch of people that don’t know the difference between conjecture, and inference.

You don’t know the difference.
You don’t know syntax, either.

Throwing around a multisyllabic word isn’t going to impress anyone in isolation. You’ll have to actually form an argument with it. There’s absolutely no danger of that.
Posted by EA6B
TX
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 2:27 am to

This post was edited on 5/13/22 at 2:38 am
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 2:47 am to
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You realize that's less than 100 boxes in the jurisdictions tested over the period sampled, right? Again, the video was used to validate the geo-tracking methodology. Period.


If they don’t have video of a mule at even one drop box location that correlated with the time, and location of a cell phone ping, how was it validated?
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8657 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 5:41 am to
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As I expected, the lack of the movie to directly tie it all together with even one person or show one person going to different boxes on video and their cell path leads to it all just being speculation or assumption…without a single person or org identified. Having only one whistleblower and no names didn’t do any favors. In fact, it allowed the issue to be easily written off.


Jmo, if the geo tracking was able to track pings and the routes then surely they know the identities of the mules.

The reason being is:

1- A particular signal is tracked to an individual from S.Carolina being close to drop box areas in Georgia.

2- Other signals investigated identified many others who participated in protests in other states prior to elections.

3- The group provided data to local LEO to help solve a cold case crime.

4- look at the time the "mules" were close to multiple drop boxes in various areas. What are the odds that individuals pass by multiple boxes, in the middle to early morning hours and just happen to be near a NPO?



This post was edited on 5/13/22 at 5:46 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48379 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 5:47 am to
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Odd. Not all that long ago these same "journalists" thought this was more than enough to impeach a president

You mean the one who reported what someone said they had overheard in a hallway??
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10216 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 6:54 am to
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All you 'show me the evidence' asshats need to shut your damn mouths unless you were EQUALLY vocal against the OCEANS of HOAXES Donald Trump was subject to.


I was equally as critical of all that nonsense as well. I sit firmly in the camp of requiring evidence for extraordinary claims.

It's more difficult with Conservative claims because I'm biased towards them, but we HAVE to maintain neutrality when it comes to these things.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:53 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:56 am to
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Taxi driver, waitr, Uber eats, bus driver.



Straight from DU. Well done.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11264 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:24 am to
In some ways, D’Souza’s tweet confirms that maybe they don’t have as much video proof as was led on in the film.

Certainly, I wouldn’t have tweeted the same drop box to say it’s different drop boxes people went to as my gotcha. Almost zero chance what that guy is doing is legal BUT they will just say it was family and he went back to his drop box.

Show the path of this person and him going to voting organizations. Show video of people at multiple drop boxes in different places.

If they have it, I don’t get why they aren’t showing it.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46617 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:27 am to
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This would provide them the ability to track a mule standing in front of a drop box.


quote:

Then why didn't they?




third time this is posted. Try to keep up.

This post was edited on 5/13/22 at 8:29 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46617 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:32 am to
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In some ways, D’Souza’s tweet confirms that maybe they don’t have as much video proof as was led on in the film.

Certainly, I wouldn’t have tweeted the same drop box to say it’s different drop boxes people went to as my gotcha. Almost zero chance what that guy is doing is legal BUT they will just say it was family and he went back to his drop box.

Show the path of this person and him going to voting organizations. Show video of people at multiple drop boxes in different places.

If they have it, I don’t get why they aren’t showing it.


I was right about you all along. For 9 pages you bitched about the lack of video of a mule hitting a drop box more than once. They give you exactly what you required, and now you are moving the goalposts again. What difference does it make if he went to the same box a second time or a different one? Your retarded, implausible justification works in either case.

And by the way...
4 million minutes is less than 100 boxes in the time frame measured across the swing states, assuming the boxes are under 24 hour surveillance. Atlanta metro alone had well over 100. He also cited patterns that indicate the mules avoided boxes that were being filmed. Not surprising since they were diligent in masking and wearing gloves after the AZ mule got busted with fingerprint evidence.
This post was edited on 5/13/22 at 8:42 am
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