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re: 200 year old live oak or Dollar General?

Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17710 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:01 pm to
It’s the pretty factor.

We don’t eat pretty animals and we don’t cut down pretty plants and trees.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
72108 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:31 pm to
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I’m sorry, it took me a little while to figure out you’re a tree hugging, fig.

Nah, I just know and understand a whole lot more than you ever will.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
72108 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:45 pm to
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Live oaks have a short root system. After 200 years, surprised it’s still standing. Life span on that IIRC is 60-70 years.

Louisiana's Champion live oak is estimated to be at least 500 years old.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25976 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:20 pm to
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Nah, I just know and understand a whole lot more than you ever will


You’ve yet to reply with a single management practice or habitat theory as it relates to wildlife or timber management.

You most certainly are a legend in your own mind. LMAO!
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25976 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:22 pm to
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We don’t eat pretty animals….


I happen to think ducks, deer, elk and turkey gobblers are some of the most beautiful animals God created.

And damned fine eating.
Posted by A10Rebel
Colorado
Member since Nov 2018
739 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 12:11 am to
What would you rather look at? Folks wearing flip flops, shuffling into a convenience store or an oak tree?

Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
27908 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 12:14 am to
It depends on if and how obese they are
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 12:23 am to
Dude I grew up in Ocean Springs, they would run you out of town if you dared to touch a big live oak. They had a tree committee that guarded those trees like they were their own children. I would complain about them but that’s one of the reason is was so nice a place to live.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 12:38 am to
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due to your own position being arbitrary.








*gasp*






Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46064 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 1:40 am to
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But I can’t not care. And I don’t think I want anything to do with religions who seemingly don’t care about nature.
I already said in a previous post that man was given dominion over nature but not abusive dominion. This planet still belongs to God.

God flooded the earth once and will destroy it with fire in the future. The earth is a habitat for God’s primary creation: mankind. Therefore, we should care for the earth but not at the expense of mankind, like some environmentalists do who see mankind as a virus that is infecting and destroying the earth and should be eliminated for the sake of a healthy planet.

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I don’t think I will ever be ok with diminishing longleaf pine habitat being wiped out just so a church can get some fill dirt. Either they aren’t following God regarding his creation or God just doesn’t care.
What standard are you using to make this value statement?
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
113992 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:01 am to
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Tree any day. We have too many Dollar Generals.


We have way more trees. Cut it down and build the DG.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22972 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:15 am to
There is a Dollar General everywhere you look nowadays
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1941 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:33 am to
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not at the expense of mankind


Define expense?

Mankind: I want money from development

And when it says abuse, is extinction of a species abuse? Were there any spiritual implications for the people who drove the northern white rhino to extinction?

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What standard are you using to make this value statement?


I don’t fully understand the question.

The church being discussed could have purchased fill dirt from an existing source. Instead they wiped out longleaf pines (which can live for hundreds of years and are much reduced compared to historical numbers) and eliminated habitat for the myriad creatures that lived there. I bet not a single person running that church considered what they were doing to God’s natural creation.



This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 10:37 am
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3650 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:12 am to
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Maybe The Dollar General in your area is just trashy.
Or maybe
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Sonny Black
is just hoity-toity
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
72108 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:14 am to
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You’ve yet to reply with a single management practice or habitat theory as it relates to wildlife or timber management.

Because where you started in this thread is ignorant, and you clearly believe you know everything. There is no point.

ETA: Just to clarify, you said trees that are later in their lifespan have no value to wildlife whatsoever. When questioned, you doubled down. I don't have to provide anything beyond your own words to prove that you don't know nearly what you claim. I wouldn't let you "manage" my lawncare.
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 11:18 am
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25976 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:23 am to
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You stated trees later in their lifespan have no value whatsoever to wildlife..


Now you’re just lying.

I said that the benefits to wildlife are often increased by thinning old growth timber. And yes, oaks often live longer than their ability to produce acorns.

I notice you’ve yet to submit your views on old growth thinning management for wildlife habitat.

You won’t either because you know I’ll embarrass your tree hugging arse.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
72108 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:24 am to
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Now you’re just lying.

Your entire involvement in this thread started with that statement.

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You won’t either because you know I’ll embarrass your tree hugging arse.

This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 11:26 am
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25976 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:27 am to
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Legend In Your Own Mind


Still waiting on your old growth management ideas and thoughts.

LMAO!!!!!!!!
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
72108 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:28 am to
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LMAO!!!!!!!!

Serious question, are you a 12 year old girl? You type like one.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25976 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:30 am to
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….are you a 12 year old girl…


My 12 year old daughter knows more about old growth timber management for wildlife than you do.

LMAO!!
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