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2 SBC pastors catching heat for calling Kamala Harris a "Jezebel".

Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:07 pm
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:07 pm
To their credit, they're not backing down

And check out some of the comments in the article from black feminist professors. Hint: RACISM!!!

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Two white pastors in Texas came under fire for referring to Vice President Kamala Harris as a Jezebel but have yet to apologize for the label that experts say had a racist and sexist undertone.

Southern Baptists have been calling on pastors Tom Buck and Steve Swofford, who sits on the Southern Baptist Convention’s executive committee, to apologize after comparing Harris to the Biblical queen, whose name has become shorthand for an "amoral, wantonly sexual woman" in popular culture. It has been used to disparage Black women in particular, according to scholars.

Swofford made the reference from his pulpit at the First Baptist Church of Rockwall, Texas, on Jan. 3 when he wondered aloud what would happen if President Joe Biden would step down and "Jezebel has to take over." He asked his congregation, "Jezebel Harris? Isn’t that her name?"

Then two days after Harris' inauguration, Buck, pastor of First Baptist Church in Lindale, Texas, tweeted, "I can’t imagine any truly God-fearing Israelite who would’ve wanted their daughters to view Jezebel as an inspirational role model because she was a woman in power."

Days later, he doubled down, stating that his issue with Harris was her "godless character" because she supports women's access to abortion and the LGBTQ+ community's right to marry.

Valerie Cooper, an associate professor of Black church studies at Duke Divinity School, described the term being used in reference to a woman of color like Harris, who made history as America's first Black, South Asian and woman vice president, as "horrendous."

"It has not only misogynistic layers of interpretation, but it’s also frankly racist in its application," Cooper told HuffPost.

Jessica Johnson, an assistant professor of religious studies at the College of William & Mary, called it "an incitement to violence," The Lily reported.

Tamura Lomax, author of "Jezebel Unhinged: Loosing the Black Female Body in Religion and Culture," said the name "Jezebel" was considered a "slur" because "she did not submit to patriarchy." In the Bible, Jezebel was a princess and a prophet who did not cower even after learning she was going to be killed.

According to Lomax, the Jezebel stereotype has been used as a justification for sexual and racial violence against Black women since the age of American slavery.

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Here are a few other links to the story if you're interersted:

the root (a black centric website)

after the altar call

baptist news

black enterprise

huff po

spokane favs
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 8:12 pm
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:11 pm to
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2 SBC pastors catching heat for calling Kamala Harris a "Jezebel".


She is. Imo, it has a double meaning because there's also a "spirit of Jezebel." Hillary Clinton is the ultimate Jezebel, but Kamala is a watered-down version.

Of course, they could've just called her a whore or a slut, but I guess even they didn't have the courage to do that.
Posted by AggieExile
San Antonio, Texas
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:12 pm to
Meh.

Yankee female theology professors. For some reason I don't think they're inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:12 pm to
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Southern Baptists have been calling on pastors Tom Buck and Steve Swofford, who sits on the Southern Baptist Convention’s executive committee, to apologize after comparing Harris to the Biblical queen, whose name has become shorthand for an "amoral, wantonly sexual woman" in popular culture.


I didn’t know about this, but I’m not calling on them to apologize. Sounds accurate to me.

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It has been used to disparage Black women in particular, according to scholars.


Funny, I’ve typically heard it used to describe white women primarily.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:13 pm to
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In the Bible, Jezebel was a princess and a prophet who did not cower even after learning she was going to be killed.


Whoever wrote that needs a refresher course on the Bible.

The pastors would have made their point 100 times stronger if they included her worst deed - cooking up the false accusation against Naboth. Which gives her something else in common with Kopmala.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:13 pm to
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Funny, I’ve typically heard it used to describe white women primarily.
Same here
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:16 pm to
Question: if you suck cock to attain your political position isn’t that “amoral”? Truth hurts.

Question: what the hell does Jezebel have to do with race? Why do these dimwits always have to bring race into everything?
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:17 pm to
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Whoever wrote that needs a refresher course on the Bible.
Good catch. She was the wife of a king, right?
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:17 pm to
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She as the wife of a king, right?


Correct - her husband was the infamous Ahab.
Posted by Bmath
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:18 pm to
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Of course, they could've just called her a whore or a slut, but I guess even they didn't have the courage to do that.


If we are being honest, this angle is rather weak. Attack her record on criminal prosecution and her clear opposition to Biden’s policies prior to her nomination.
Posted by BRUNNIN4
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:21 pm to
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Swofford made the reference from his pulpit at the First Baptist Church of Rockwall, Texas, on Jan. 3 when he wondered aloud what would happen if President Joe Biden would step down and "Jezebel has to take over." He asked his congregation, "Jezebel Harris? Isn’t that her name?"


He also said Dementia Joe. I was in the pews for this.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:23 pm to
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According to Lomax, the Jezebel stereotype has been used as a justification for sexual and racial violence against Black women since the age of American slavery.


This part sounds like USDA certified bull shite to me.
Posted by tigafan4life
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:23 pm to
Calling someone a ho in a classier way is an incitement to violence. What the frick are these people on?
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:23 pm to
No indication Jezzy was black, so I’m not getting the “racist” angle unless it’s racist to

A. Compare a black woman to a cracker or
B. Criticize a back woman in any way

I suspect B
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 8:25 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:41 pm to
My response would be “Kamala Harris is NOT the whore of Babylon.

I didn’t say anything about San Francisco or Los Angeles, however.”
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:49 pm to
Who gives a frick?
Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:53 pm to
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Who gives a frick?


Apparently, butt hurt liberals.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:53 pm to
To be fair, Jezebel was tossed out of a window and fell to her death.

Kamala slid down the pole instead.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 9:15 pm to
Blacks should be embarrassed about this kind of thing like conservative whites are of cucked whites.

These people are beyond sick in the head. And sadly the control everything.
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