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re: 1st Lesbian Bishop calls for the removal of cross signs & wants Muslim prayer space
Posted on 12/19/18 at 8:53 am to Bass Tiger
Posted on 12/19/18 at 8:53 am to Bass Tiger
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 8:56 am to SDVTiger
quote:The depth and breadth of your ignorance never ceases to astound.quote:What
Millions of practicing Christians view the Cross and similar symbols as violations of the Second Commandment.
Entire DENOMINATIONS take this position.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 8:56 am to TOKEN
That’s what you get for having a 1st Lesbian Bishop.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:06 am to AggieHank86
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Entire DENOMINATIONS take this position.
Not really. There are sects of christianity that eschew religious iconography, sure, but none really go so far as to say a deception of a cross is an outright "violation of the Second Commandment. Certainly not "millions."
Google away.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:12 am to Madking
quote:Lutheran bishop
How is she a lesbian? Don’t bishops abstain from sex?
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:43 am to braindeadboxer
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I’d bet good money she doesn’t actually believe in God.
I'll bet she believes in the Mother Goddess, doe.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:47 am to Boatshoes
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You can find the real Lutherans here:
Why are there two distinct kinds of Real Lutherans? And, I'll bet that the Church of Sweden considers themselves to be Real Lutherans.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:47 am to PEPE
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Part of actually believing in a religion is by default disbelieving in other religions. You're only supposed follow a religion if you think it's true. It being true, by default, makes the others not true.
Absolutely, Betrand Russell made that point - explaining that the faithful can’t love everyone, for this reason.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:52 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Frankly, it amazes me that more people are not aware of this.quote:Not really. There are sects of christianity that eschew religious iconography, sure, but none really go so far as to say a deception of a cross is an outright "violation of the Second Commandment. Certainly not "millions."
Entire DENOMINATIONS take this position.
Jehovah's Witnesses are the largest such denomination, and there are millions of them. Feel free to Google for their exact numbers, because I don't care to do so. But many smaller denominations take a similar position.
The Amish and Mennonites don't use the cross much either, but some argue that this is more due to the unadorned simplicity of their houses of worship than to a denomination-wide objection to the symbol.
EDIT: The Mormons completely slipped my mind, but I suspect that a large percentage of this forum will argue that they are not Christian.
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 9:57 am
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:53 am to Champagne
So, if a moderate Republican belongs to this branch of the Lutheran faith, is he "in name only" on TWO counts?
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:55 am to TOKEN
WTF? more trying to change cultural norms to fit THEIR narrative. openly homosexual women ordained as a bishop???
look bitch either you want to be a christian or not. all sinners welcome but You cannot rewrite scripture and the rules! shite just go join islam! see how they like your lesbo arse!
look bitch either you want to be a christian or not. all sinners welcome but You cannot rewrite scripture and the rules! shite just go join islam! see how they like your lesbo arse!
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:55 am to AggieHank86
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Entire DENOMINATIONS take this position.
Please. List them. In their entirety.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:55 am to AggieHank86
Ok, so why did she do this for one church and not all if that is the new direction she wants to go in? This isn't a sect that observed the practice of no symbolism.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:58 am to TOKEN
Sad thing is that it will probably happen.
But what should happen is the dockyard priest should welcome any Muslim who wishes to convert to Christianity and worship God and Jesus. If not a polite "Have a good day" while closing the door would be sufficient.
If there are enough Muslims to warrant a worship place I am sure that some Imam would set one up. And inside there people could worship and pray to their pedophile prophet.
I would love to hear this lesbian Bishop request an Imam in Iran to make a place for Christians to worship. She would get thrown off a rooftop with a quickness.
But what should happen is the dockyard priest should welcome any Muslim who wishes to convert to Christianity and worship God and Jesus. If not a polite "Have a good day" while closing the door would be sufficient.
If there are enough Muslims to warrant a worship place I am sure that some Imam would set one up. And inside there people could worship and pray to their pedophile prophet.
I would love to hear this lesbian Bishop request an Imam in Iran to make a place for Christians to worship. She would get thrown off a rooftop with a quickness.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:58 am to SSpaniel
quote:I am not going to research every single denomination for you, but several large examples are already listed above.quote:Please. List them. In their entirety
Entire DENOMINATIONS take this position.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 10:00 am to AggieHank86
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Millions of practicing Christians view the Cross and similar symbols as violations of the Second Commandment.
This is not a correct statement, no matter how you slice it. Maybe you should be a bit more thoughtful about your absolutisms before spouting off to others about how ignorant they are.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 10:01 am to upgrayedd
quote:I may be reading far too much into this, but I THINK that the focus on this church is its location and target audience. It caters to travelers (seamen), many of whom are NOT Christian.
Ok, so why did she do this for one church and not all if that is the new direction she wants to go in? This isn't a sect that observed the practice of no symbolism.
Perhaps the goal is a sort of soft evangelism. You cannot convert them if you cannot get them in the door. Is that too cynical?
Posted on 12/19/18 at 10:03 am to AggieHank86
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Millions of practicing Christians view the Cross and similar symbols as violations of the Second Commandment.
only dumbfricks.
here read this
LINK
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So the prohibition against graven images in Exodus 20 is not an absolute prohibition against making graven images or images of things in heaven or on earth, it is a prohibition against worshipping them as gods. And we know this is true from the Bible itself!
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In Numbers, 21:8-9, God commandsMoses to make a graven image: “And the Lord said to Moses, ‘Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and every one who is bitten, when he sees it, shall live.’ So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live.” So, not only are graven images not forbidden to be made, but God Himself commands the making of one! And, this graven image is used, by God, in a religious context, to heal those who had been bitten by serpents after they had grumbled against God. And, in the New Testament, this graven image is even seen as an Old Testament type of Christ: “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him may have eternal life,” (John 3:14-15). The graven image of the serpent had a religious purpose!
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 10:05 am
Posted on 12/19/18 at 10:03 am to AggieHank86
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So, if a moderate Republican belongs to this branch of the Lutheran faith, is he "in name only" on TWO counts?
Yes, it would appear so.
But, don't ignore the other hundred-or-so branches of Protestantism. They will also tell you that THEY are the real thing.
Martin Luther miscalculated the dynamics of schismaticism, IMHO. Go, Lesbian Lutheran Bishop! (she's right, you know, it's all clearly there in Holy Scripture -- you just have to see it the way I see it).
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 10:05 am
Posted on 12/19/18 at 10:05 am to Fat Bastard
quote:I do not disagree in substance, though I might choose different words. I have no problem with symbolism.quote:only dumbfricks.
Millions of practicing Christians view the Cross and similar symbols as violations of the Second Commandment.
But that does not change the fact that millions of Christians do not use the cross for their worship.
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