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re: 169 Dead, 644 Hospitalized in Illinois Breakthrough COVID Cases
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:04 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:04 pm to Jjdoc
To get their percentages are they going to the beginning of the outbreak? I mean people only have been getting the vaccine in the last few months. Something is hokey pokey with these numbers. At only 2% deaths of vaccinated when did they start the count? Show us a breakdown, month to month alongside the vaccination chart. 
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Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:05 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Apparently unvaccinated deaths account for 3% of total deaths since January:
LINK
49% of Illinois is now fully vaccinated.
quote:
As of Wednesday, 714 fully vaccinated people in Illinois had been hospitalized with COVID-19, and 180 had died due to COVID-19 or complications — comprising less than 3% of all COVID-19 deaths in the state since January, according to the Illinois Department of Public Health.
LINK
49% of Illinois is now fully vaccinated.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:06 pm to BillRose
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What do you expect them to say, we know their vaccine does not keep you from being infected or from spreading the virus so what does the 93% figure mean exactly?
Hospitalizations
quote:
In this multistate analysis of adults aged >=65 years, receipt of an authorized COVID-19 vaccine was associated with significant protection against COVID-19 hospitalization. Effectiveness was 94% among adults who were fully vaccinated and 64% among adults who were partially vaccinated (i.e., onset of COVID-like illness >=14 days after the first vaccine dose in a 2-dose series but <14 days after the second dose). These findings are consistent with efficacy determined from clinical trials in the subgroup of adults aged >=65 years (4,5).
Effectiveness of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna Vaccines Against COVID-19 Among Hospitalized Adults Aged =65 Years — United States, January–March 2021
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:08 pm to hubertcumberdale
The CDC can't be considered credible, too many flip flops and outright lies.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:08 pm to NoMercy
quote:I'm a cup half-full type. You're obviously a cup half- empty type. What if the unintended consequence 5 years down the road isn't an increased incidence of cancer, but is instead a decreased incidence of Alzheimer's patients? Who wrote the rule that unintended consequences must always be bad?
Is it worth increasing your Covid survival rate by 0.01% only to find out 5 years later that it will increase your cancer rate by 2%. I mean we are just now allowing everyone to sue for cancer issues for Roundup and talcum powder and they have been around how long?
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:09 pm to hubertcumberdale
You will need to explain further. Since 95% of people who get the virus don't have to be hospitalized then the figure for he vaccine is 2% worse than not being vaccinated.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:23 pm to BillRose
quote:
You will need to explain further. Since 95% of people who get the virus don't have to be hospitalized then the figure for he vaccine is 2% worse than not being vaccinated.
That link is for 65+ and in that context 95% is the reduction in risk of getting severe covid.
It says, compared to unvaccinated:
1-dose leads to 64% reduction
and
2-dose leads to 94%-95% reduction
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:27 pm to 14&Counting
Exactly, which Dem is putting out this fake news?
Lightfoot is an ugly ho ain't she.
Lightfoot is an ugly ho ain't she.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:30 pm to hubertcumberdale
I want that Chad vaccine
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:31 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:
5 years down the road isn't an increased incidence of cancer, but is instead a decreased incidence of Alzheimer's patients
Then maybe if it's safer I might take it...
Sure the blue pill did this trick, but 9 times outta 9.0000001...it fricks the patient
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:32 pm to HubbaBubba
How does this measure in, that doctors are not allowed to actually treat the CCP virus victims with therapeutics which would greatly reduce hospitalizations? Ivermectin for instance shut down a huge percentage of hospitalizations in India.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:34 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:
I'm a cup half-full type. You're obviously a cup half- empty type. What if the unintended consequence 5 years down the road isn't an increased incidence of cancer, but is instead a decreased incidence of Alzheimer's patients? Who wrote the rule that unintended consequences must always be bad?
How often do experimental drugs have unforeseen positive side effects much less accidentally cure Alzheimer's?!? LOL
Again, it needs to be an individual decision, but we aren't given accurate data.
Even with TONS of hospice types littering the covid death data, my chance of being hospitalized or dying from Covid are virtually zero. More specifically, less than 2/10ths of 1%. In recent weeks, its been confirmed that the vaccine will NOT stop me from getting it or spreading it. It will NOT exempt me from government controls, and may only lessen my symptoms IF I were to contract the virus. Its also become clear that virtually ALL assurances about these vaccines were wrong, or at best, wildly off. Its NOT permanent, its NOT 95% effective, and its NOT robust against variants. It also has higher deaths than any other widely distributed vaccine in history and, in a short time, is shown to have several unforeseen side-effects. Long-term side effects are completely unknown.
So why is it unreasonable for someone like me to wait? Why should governments or corporations force me to get injected? Its certainly not to protect others.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:36 pm to hubertcumberdale
quote:
Where does anyone get the idea that any vaccine works 100% of the time?
Probably just the Polio talking, but I haven’t a clue.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:37 pm to Olric
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None of this data you share means anything without also showing the number of unvaccinated deaths and hospitalizations during the same time frame.
So it went from you cant catch covid, to well you cant spread it, to well you wont be hospitalized, to well you wont die... Whats next?
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:39 pm to GoldenGuy
No one said they were 100%. We were told they were 95% though. In reality, it seems they are closer to about 60%.
Hopefully, the vaccines help at risk people survive the virus, but thats about the best we can hope for knowing what we know. There's been more than enough doubt sewn about the vaccines that no one should be talking about mandates of any sort.
Hopefully, the vaccines help at risk people survive the virus, but thats about the best we can hope for knowing what we know. There's been more than enough doubt sewn about the vaccines that no one should be talking about mandates of any sort.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:41 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:
No one said they were 100%.
Joe Biden did
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:42 pm to dgnx6
That's true! That idiot said that AFTER the CDC put the vaccinistas back in masks! LOL
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:47 pm to jonnyanony
The risk of getting severe CCP virus is very small no matter how you look at it. In fact if treated early with therapeutics like HCQ or Ivermectin reduces the possibility of severe virus issues greatly. The reason we don't have those stats here in the US is because they were not given EAU status to force us into thinking their experimental vaccine was the best option. They lied about the two most important aspects of a good vaccine, that it kept you from getting the virus and that it kept you from spreading it. Why are you ignoring the fact that many vaccinated people are being hospitalized and dying because of the vaccine or because people still got the virus after getting vaccinated. Why would you believe anything Fauci says?
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:49 pm to GoldenGuy
Don't forget measles, mumps, TB, Chicken pox and others.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:52 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:It's not. It should be a personal decision.
So why is it unreasonable for someone like me to wait? Why should governments or corporations force me to get injected? Its certainly not to protect others.
They shouldn't. Your personal health and medical history is none of their business.
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